That's just weird.
Seat Belt Pledge
- Thread starter UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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tourists24
Well-Known Member
did he have his seatbelt on?
Was it really orange? We had to trash all our orange ones here. They have to be yellow now....
He should not be out in the yard in an orange vest!
Bristol Brown
Well-Known Member
You are obviously misunderstanding me!!!!!! I am not talking about backing onto a freeway where cars are travelling at high speed. I am talking about backing onto a loading bay about 15ft away.
The law in the UK says that you can back without a seatbelt because common sense says that it is impossible for you to be in a position for your seatbelt to save you from injury.Of course if you want to leave your doors open stick your head out the the side of the vehicle while backing onto a freeway into on rushing high speed vehicles thats different.
The zero tolerance on seatbelts by UPS that isn`t law is just plain bloody ridiculous.In the UK couriers will never get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt as in town centres they never reach speeds of more than 20mph.
A lot of the UPS driving rules are plain nonsense, on every s & v ride I refuse to honk the horn when I reverse nor do I put the four way flashers on.I get marked down for it and explain why I dont employ these ridiculous actions.
If UPS want a horn honked when reversing then they should install a horn that operates when the vehicle is in reverse.
Integrity
Binge Poster
FracusBrown,
This is actually not true. In many states, Worker's Compensation Laws prevent an employer from being sued for negligence by their employees.
Sincerely,
I
cachsux
Wah
IF one is decided to receive workers compensation for an injury. One can choose not to and seek consul to take litigious action.
We have an ongoing problem with one of the exit gates and the yield sign at it which is constantly being disregarded. It`s been pointed out repeatedly at pcms and safety meetings by drivers that something needs to be done. The company is non receptive and we`ve pointed out it just a matter of time that luck will run out and you can bet your paycheck there will be a lawsuit over it.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
You are correct. Neon yellow.
Nimnim
The Nim
We were told the orange ones some people had weren't "break away" enough since the sides weren't held together with velcro and could cause people to get caught in machinery and stuff.
FracusBrown
Ponies and Planes
I didn't realize you were a lawyer. Do dead people get workers comp?
If Ford had only known what you know, they wouldn't have paid out 1.1 billion to all the people those pesky people in Explorers with Firestone tires that blew out. I'm sure someone thought there was no liability since it seemed like a good idea and wasn't even a tire made by Ford. Just a silly part their engineers decided to install. What the heck...tires have been around since before the model T.
Integrity
Binge Poster
FracusBrown,
I am not sure I understand your point.
Worker's Compensation Laws only cover injuries or deaths that happen on the job.
State statute determines these laws, and how they are administered when someone is injured or dies on the job.
You appear to have referenced an automobile product liabilty example.
Please forgive me if I have misunderstood you.
Sincerely,
I
FracusBrown
Ponies and Planes
You said there is no liability and brought workers comp into the topic for some unknown reason.
If you know of some magic that guarantees not being sued or gets one out of a law suit without settling or without winning a legal battle, please share it with us.
CharleyHustle
Well-Known Member
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(gb...e=getobject&objectname=mcl-257-710e&highlight=
I wonder if (g) exempts UPS drivers from the Michigan seat belt law?
I wonder if (g) exempts UPS drivers from the Michigan seat belt law?
Integrity
Binge Poster
FracusBrown,
I have highlighted the portion of one of your posts that I originally commented on in red.
I did not say "there is no liability". If I am mistaken please let me know and do forgive me.
The purpose of my comment was to explain that Worker's Compensation Laws, for the most part, prevent employees from sueing their employers for negligence.
I have found that most individuals think they can sue their employers for negligence. This is just not true.
Sincerely,
I
menotyou
bella amicizia
It looks like it, except, UPS requires it in their vehicles.
CharleyHustle
Well-Known Member
Not disputing that, its just some have said that it is also a violation of state law which it may or may not be. So, maybe a pledge isn't a bad idea? Rightly or (IMO) wrongly some, and even state legislatures, insinuate that belt use is not, or should not be, manditory under all circumstances.
CharleyHustle
Well-Known Member
If it is offered, I'll sign. It's something I do anyways. In case you haven't noticed, safety isn't being ignored at other large and small corporations. Ever see the "Drive to Zero" decals on contractor or company vehichles? "Yard Control" isn't just a UPS thing. Just in the last couple weeks, twice I've seen FedEx drivers told to shut off their trucks and get it in low gear while delivering. Another company's driver was told not to use their cell phone while driving on this company's property. He actually was cought on a security camera. While price is stiil king, safety can sell. Sure a "pledge" is just symbolic, overall safety can win out in the long run.
