1 Dear esteemed membership, I am in need of advice and experience related to a seniority issue from our community. The problem that I have comes from bad information I received back in the mid 1980's. I became a full time pre-loader in 4/84. I worked in that position until 6/85 when I qualified as a package car driver in 7/85. I was told by other drivers and even some shopstewards that while my pension would begin as of 4/84 my seniority would be in effect from my first day as a qualified driver. I never thought about it since it was something many people said-and said with uniformity. So I accepted it to be true. However, not until recently was I supplied with new and accurate info concerning my working seniority (vacation bids, etc). I was told that the full time preload years also apply to my seniority and in the center where I drive my actual seniority date is from my preload time as well. I began asking on how to get the documentation to verify this. So I went to the union and requested a years of service/pension print out. I recieved one and thereby discussed with them if they could provide me with an exact date for the start of my full time seniority. Much to my surprise they could not pinpoint the exact date. I asked UPS human resourses for the exact date and they could not provide that information either. Both the union and UPS only have general information for my request. It seems odd that this is the case considering a lot of things change when an employee goes from part to full time. Papers are signed to begin coverage for health benefits, etc. I need some input on this from the composite experiences of this online community. I know that someone else has had a similar circumstance and I would welcome the direction that they could provide me.