Strike 2023

Johney

Well-Known Member
How they gonna crush the union? They can't hire enough replacements. If they commit ULP's, they would get fined.

BTW, if your supplement allows for it, I recommend everyone try to cash out two weeks of vacation for after the vote next year. Imagine if the company had to pay out all that vacation time right before we went on strike, and you'd be pretty well set for a couple of weeks of striking without any other preparations.
If they payout 2 weeks vacation then went on strike without pay for 3 weeks wouldn't they make out better?
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
In my area a $500,000 house would be a McMansion. Some of you people could use a realty check and a financial advisor.

Fact is that most of the houses on the market are selling well over 100,000 dollars more than 2 years ago. That and the rising interest rates are going to hammer the housing markets.

Just wait till the property tax departments start revaluing your homes and expect a rise with your home insurance..inflation will affect replacement materials.

It sure looks like the young first time home buyers will have to wait ... or both will have to clear over $ 2000 an week.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Fact is that most of the houses on the market are selling well over 100,000 dollars more than 2 years ago. That and the rising interest rates are going to hammer the housing markets.

Just wait till the property tax departments start revaluing your homes and expect a rise with your home insurance..inflation will affect replacement materials.

It sure looks like the young first time home buyers will have to wait ... or both will have to clear over $ 2000 an week.
Companies like Vanguard and Blackrock have been buying single family houses everywhere. They’re the ones that out bid other buyers, it raises the prices on all the other homes, which benefits them, instant equity. This excludes many people from ever buying a house. Next, the property tax will force people out of their homes. They will be forced to rent. We won’t be able to afford to drive because of gas prices, so we’ll have to use public transportation. We’ll end up in high rises. Just what the socialists want.
You will own nothing, and be happy.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
But if you sell then you have to turn around and buy. Wife and I talked about doing the same thing. Be great to make the money on the sale but just to shell it out to buy something else just isn’t worth it.

There are markets somewhat close by that I could move to, or we would look at building our own on bare land.
 

trickpony1

Well-Known Member
Companies like Vanguard and Blackrock have been buying single family houses everywhere. They’re the ones that out bid other buyers, it raises the prices on all the other homes, which benefits them, instant equity. This excludes many people from ever buying a house. Next, the property tax will force people out of their homes. They will be forced to rent. We won’t be able to afford to drive because of gas prices, so we’ll have to use public transportation. We’ll end up in high rises. Just what the socialists want.
You will own nothing, and be happy.
Has anyone noticed all the new apartment complexes popping up?
The government wants to own everything (as mentioned above) and move everyone into the city (where they are easier to control) hence the "stack 'em and pack 'em" apartment complexes.

It's all in the narrative.

Futuristic helping.
 

I have been lurking

Tired hubrat
Has anyone noticed all the new apartment complexes popping up?
The government wants to own everything (as mentioned above) and move everyone into the city (where they are easier to control) hence the "stack 'em and pack 'em" apartment complexes.

It's all in the narrative.

Futuristic helping.
Section 8
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
The company

No, their revenue would grind to a screeching halt, they would lose customers that would take time to recover, stock prices would tank. A strike might be bad for unprepared employee, but it's really bad for the company. Even if they rushed to hire scabs to keep things moving, they simply wouldn't be able to keep it up.
 

PT Car Washer

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Companies like Vanguard and Blackrock have been buying single family houses everywhere. They’re the ones that out bid other buyers, it raises the prices on all the other homes, which benefits them, instant equity. This excludes many people from ever buying a house. Next, the property tax will force people out of their homes. They will be forced to rent. We won’t be able to afford to drive because of gas prices, so we’ll have to use public transportation. We’ll end up in high rises. Just what the socialists want.
You will own nothing, and be happy.
No Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
No, their revenue would grind to a screeching halt, they would lose customers that would take time to recover, stock prices would tank. A strike might be bad for unprepared employee, but it's really bad for the company. Even if they rushed to hire scabs to keep things moving, they simply wouldn't be able to keep it up.

They are scrapping the barrel now for new employees.. could you imagine what kind of characters they would have to hire as scabs, it would be suicidal just from the liability issues involved with putting these temps behind a wheel on our roads and thievery.

Also anybody who would scab has no pride knowing they will have no future once the strike is settled. Another issue is them crossing a picket line in one piece, did not happen in “97” and will not happen if it comes down to a work stoppage in 2023.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
They are scrapping the barrel now for new employees.. could you imagine what kind of characters they would have to hire as scabs, it would be suicidal just from the liability issues involved with putting these temps behind a wheel on our roads and thievery.

Also anybody who would scab has no pride knowing they will have no future once the strike is settled. Another issue is them crossing a picket line in one piece, did not happen in “97” and will not happen if it comes down to a work stoppage in 2023.
Amazon drivers to the rescue. 🤣
 

Johney

Well-Known Member
How they gonna crush the union? They can't hire enough replacements. If they commit ULP's, they would get fined.

BTW, if your supplement allows for it, I recommend everyone try to cash out two weeks of vacation for after the vote next year. Imagine if the company had to pay out all that vacation time right before we went on strike, and you'd be pretty well set for a couple of weeks of striking without any other preparations.

If they payout 2 weeks vacation then went on strike without pay for 3 weeks wouldn't they make out better?

Who? The company.or the employee?

The company

No, their revenue would grind to a screeching halt, they would lose customers that would take time to recover, stock prices would tank. A strike might be bad for unprepared employee, but it's really bad for the company. Even if they rushed to hire scabs to keep things moving, they simply wouldn't be able to keep it up.
So let me try and understand what you mean by the original post I quoted. So everyone sells back two weeks vacation to cost the company big money right? Then everyone has cash to hold them over during the strike. Yes it will cost the company money to pay out those vacations. So what if the strike goes for a month? Where does the two more weeks of income come from for striking workers? See? the company has already made money on them. Maybe where you are at people will hold out for as long as it takes, right to work states like here will not, two weeks tops and they'll be crossing in herds. Yes will it affect the company? Sure, but if I remember correctly the 97 strike lasted a tad over two weeks and by then we had a good bunch of scabs cross. Also there were a couple of locals (Chicago?) that held out longer. Company just didn't deliver there until it was settled. All I can say is good luck if you all strike you'd better hope they don't plan on ousting the union cause you all will have a hard time.
 

Johney

Well-Known Member
They are scrapping the barrel now for new employees.. could you imagine what kind of characters they would have to hire as scabs, it would be suicidal just from the liability issues involved with putting these temps behind a wheel on our roads and thievery.

Also anybody who would scab has no pride knowing they will have no future once the strike is settled. Another issue is them crossing a picket line in one piece, did not happen in “97” and will not happen if it comes down to a work stoppage in 2023.
Are you kidding? For $25 an hour they'd have 1000 apps a day. You really think they care about liability or thievery? You're kidding yourself.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
So let me try and understand what you mean by the original post I quoted. So everyone sells back two weeks vacation to cost the company big money right? Then everyone has cash to hold them over during the strike. Yes it will cost the company money to pay out those vacations. So what if the strike goes for a month? Where does the two more weeks of income come from for striking workers? See? the company has already made money on them. Maybe where you are at people will hold out for as long as it takes, right to work states like here will not, two weeks tops and they'll be crossing in herds. Yes will it affect the company? Sure, but if I remember correctly the 97 strike lasted a tad over two weeks and by then we had a good bunch of scabs cross. Also there were a couple of locals (Chicago?) that held out longer. Company just didn't deliver there until it was settled. All I can say is good luck if you all strike you'd better hope they don't plan on ousting the union cause you all will have a hard time.

I just thought of another way to think about it. UPS will never admit ORION is a failure because doing so would negatively affect the stock price. You think the company would be willing to let a strike go on very long?

Ohhh... I see, you're worried about your pension, and want us to sell ourselves down the river to keep you secure. That about right?
 
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