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Thebrownblob

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i agree mob rule is bad, and im not familiar with the solution to it.

what we currently have economically is free choice of economic dictatorship if you want to b an employee.

democracy limited to voting once every 2 years, and its totally corrupted by the economic system. so really its another kind of dictatorship.
I would agree there’s no perfect system, but we do know the systems that absolutely do not work and end up in disaster. Capitalism works, unfortunately crony capitalism does not, and that’s what we have in United States right now. The United States is a representative republic, not a democracy and the founding fathers understood the difference. We also have a constitution that acknowledges our inalienable rights.
 

Thebrownblob

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you need workers to buy your product. workers cant buy if theyre in debt because govt doesnt make education, and healthcare, and housing affordable.
Education, healthcare and housing.. those three things have one thing in common, the government trying to manipulate them and ruining them. Can you not see what’s the actual problem?
 

vantexan

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I would agree there’s no perfect system, but we do know the systems that absolutely do not work and end up in disaster. Capitalism works, unfortunately crony capitalism does not, and that’s what we have in United States right now. The United States is a representative republic, not a democracy and the founding fathers understood the difference. We also have a constitution that acknowledges our inhalable rights.
Sorry can't resist. It's an inalienable right to inhale? :)
 

rickyb

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FDR's policies prolonged the Great Depression, not fixed it.
no FDR, who was scared to death of communists, socialists, and unions power (which you can objectively look at the unionization rate), created EI, social security, hired 10 million workers, and i forget what else.
 

rickyb

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Education, healthcare and housing.. those three things have one thing in common, the government trying to manipulate them and ruining them. Can you not see what’s the actual problem?
no by making those things affordable, which many countries governments successfully do, they lower the cost of labor, which allows their industry to out compete other countries who dont do this
 

rickyb

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I would agree there’s no perfect system, but we do know the systems that absolutely do not work and end up in disaster. Capitalism works, unfortunately crony capitalism does not, and that’s what we have in United States right now. The United States is a representative republic, not a democracy and the founding fathers understood the difference. We also have a constitution that acknowledges our inhalable rights.
capitalism doesnt work because it centralizes power in few hands which leads to corruption and power abuse. in addition it doesnt work because its unsustainable.

founding fathers didnt like democracy, they gave all the power to rich white men. only reason your democracy expanded was bc ppl demanded it.
 

Thebrownblob

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no by making those things affordable, which many countries governments successfully do, they lower the cost of labor, which allows their industry to out compete other countries who dont do this
Wait a minute you want to lower the cost of labor? I thought $15 an hour was a slap in the face, $30 is the new $15.
 

PT 4 Life

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Wow I am amazed at how clueless you are.
People know you have to pay it back.
They choose to be deadbeats.

You are here defending deadbeats.
It's ridiculous.

Why are you saying me lol? i Know how a loan works. You honestly don’t believe people out here don’t understand it?
 

rickyb

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And who does their protection? And I'd argue they aren't doing so well economically.
you are not protecting them. because you expanded NATO, now they are at risk of being nuked and theyre gas prices went high.

they have similar problems with financialization that america does. but they have better working rights, more unions, and the govt lowers the cost of labor more than america does.
 
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