Syracuse, NY is now a 6 day work week for all drivers

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
I have lost respect for more than a few of my drivers and believe you me, I will not forget it and I am sure there are many other management people that feel the same way.

You more than likely don't care, but there it is........

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Why does everyone think management is doing this just to punish the drivers and inside employees?

We are in unprecedented territory over the last couple of months in regards to package volume, we are trying not to roll packages but it is happening as you know due to Covid 19, working from home, quarantined, kids home, there are some things you can only get on line no stores in the area have it, period.

We cannot hire people fast enough even if we are hiring in your area. A lot of people are not even applying because they are making so much more money on unemployment.

I am only seeing 3-5 people on the initial HR interview vs 10-15 as in the past.

We are not lowering our standards and I am totally on board with that, we have had to DQ a couple of insiders because the created even more work while on road. New pre-loaders and local sorters just walking out.

We get that you are exhausted, guess what, so are we.

As far as the contract with Req 8's and 9.5's... who are we going to give the work too? Most are working until 8 or later every night with everyone working.

Last thing, if you are one of the drivers filing for 9.5 violation and you are doing less work then before (smaller area cause every route is in and you have 20 more stops...not 75 more!) then you better look in the mirror before you talk about being an essential worker/hero. A lot of you are just doing it to get paid (Hero Pay..ya right, greedy more like it) cause everyone else is doing it. I have lost respect for more than a few of my drivers and believe you me, I will not forget it and I am sure there are many other management people that feel the same way.

You more than likely don't care, but there it is........
Heck yes I'm filing my 9.5's! UPS is making unprecedented profits in what is usually the slowest quarter of the year and I'm certainly going to get my share of that profit. If you want to call me "Greedy" I'm more than fine with that as I come to work to make as much money as I can,by whatever means necessary ( Supe Working grievances are sweet too!!!). You guys should have Expected the Unexpected.You need to Figure it out and Make it Happen !! I have no respect whatsoever for my 'Management Team" so if you have no respect for me and my coworkers .....well we will call it even .
 

35years

Gravy route
1. We cannot hire people fast enough even if we are hiring in your area.

2. We are not lowering our standards and I am totally on board with that, we have had to DQ a couple of insiders because the created even more work while on road. New pre-loaders and local sorters just walking out.

3. We get that you are exhausted, guess what, so are we.
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We are seeing drivers kept for 29 days and let go because the district manager doesn't want to commit to hiring them permanently and he makes more money this way. Drivers who are making scratch. Be honest, center managers want to keep the new guys but are not given the option. Its all about making EXTRA money using the excuse of COVID.

Managers and on roads are leaving before I get in on my 8 hour requests.

Nice try at trying to spin it though.

And yes, we do work at a slower pace when we are absolutely exhausted.

You insult us by saying sitting at a desk for a couple extra hours is making you exhausted. It shows you have no idea what we are experiencing.
 
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35years

Gravy route
You guys better get your fricking strategy straight.

If you haven't noticed, people are fed up with being treated like dirt.

The union activism of the 1930s might pale in comparison if you guys push it. A few extra clicks over and 9.5 grievances are nothing.

I could see wildcats, or at least massive call-ins if it gets worse, and that would be as "civil" as it gets if 9.5s are not paid quickly.
 
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PT Car Washer

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I tend to agree with this. Nobody is trying to :censored2: us, at least not at my building. They are all burned out also. They have been trying to hire as fast as possible at my building for all positions, and it's not easy to do with all of the Corona social distancing stuff.

It basically just is what it is. I'm tired of working 6 days a week (over a month now), but I also know its just what it is. Nobody wants to force us all in. It's the nature of the business. :censored2: needs to get delivered. It's the whole reason we are here. It does suck for all of us. But just need to man up and put on your game face and get it done. We aren't the only people busting their ass during this pandemic, so I try to keep that in perspective.

I agree that your attitude during this situation will probably leave a lasting impression both on your sups and other drivers.
Yeah, that is the go to guy whenever we have a problem. Then just try and get a day off for a funeral or something. Sorry. Too many 8 hour request and need you to cover pick ups.
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
You guys better get your fricking strategy straight.

If you haven't noticed, people are fed up with being treated like dirt.

The union activism of the 1930s might pale in comparison if you guys push it. A few extra clicks over and 9.5 grievances are nothing.

I could see wildcats, or at least massive call-ins if it gets worse, and that would be as "civil" as it gets if 9.5s are not paid quickly.
Delivery drivers being paid almost $40/hr are not going to wildcat and risk giving up a $100k/yr job and a cushy pension in a few years for the rest of their lives. Now the 22.4 delivery drivers making $21/hr could be a different story.
 

vvv

Well-Known Member
I tend to agree with this. Nobody is trying to :censored2: us, at least not at my building. They are all burned out also. They have been trying to hire as fast as possible at my building for all positions, and it's not easy to do with all of the Corona social distancing stuff.

It basically just is what it is. I'm tired of working 6 days a week (over a month now), but I also know its just what it is. Nobody wants to force us all in. It's the nature of the business. :censored2: needs to get delivered. It's the whole reason we are here. It does suck for all of us. But just need to man up and put on your game face and get it done. We aren't the only people busting their ass during this pandemic, so I try to keep that in perspective.

I agree that your attitude during this situation will probably leave a lasting impression both on your sups and other drivers.

I could care less what any of them think. To do so would be ridiculous.
 

vvv

Well-Known Member
Heck yes I'm filing my 9.5's! UPS is making unprecedented profits in what is usually the slowest quarter of the year and I'm certainly going to get my share of that profit. If you want to call me "Greedy" I'm more than fine with that as I come to work to make as much money as I can,by whatever means necessary ( Supe Working grievances are sweet too!!!). You guys should have Expected the Unexpected.You need to Figure it out and Make it Happen !! I have no respect whatsoever for my 'Management Team" so if you have no respect for me and my coworkers .....well we will call it even .

Very solid and well spoke from start to finish. Well done!!
 

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
The Teamsters union is planning a national “call to action” on Wednesday with demonstrations in almost 30 cities for better protection of food supply-chain workers.
 
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