Syria
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Alternative facts.Secretary of Defense Mattis claims the Tomahawk strike took out about 20% of the Syrian operational aircraft. I'm going on the assumption this means military aircraft and that the only target struck was the Shayrat Air Base. This doesn't count the Tomahawks that totally missed the target and hit elsewhere. Specific numbers given were that 20 operational planes were destroyed on the ground during the strike. In 2011' it was reported that Syria had the following aircraft inventory in their Air Force.
575 fixed-wing aircraft:
Combat/reconnaissance/OCU aircraft: 461
Training aircraft: 76
Transport aircraft: 26
191 rotary-wing aircraft:
Attack helicopters: 71
Armed transport/utility helicopters: 120
source: Center for Strategic and International Studies
CNN sourcing IHS Jane's Defense Analysts states the following: "Defense analysts IHS Jane's estimate the Syrian airforce has about 262 strike aircraft, although the company admits this may be an imperfect number due to the ongoing war."
Using the lower number from IHS Jane, how does Mattis take 20 destroyed aircraft and come up with the 20% number? At best 10% seems more proper here. Going to google earth and seeing a shot of the Shayrat Base with its hardened bunkers, 20 aircraft taken out seems plausible looking at the image but this doesn't equate to 20% of the Syrian Air Force. Did Mattis misspeak or make a math mistake which can happen or was he deliberately and intended to twist numbers for the sake of political PR?
wkmac
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Can't take a little ribbing?
wkmac
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From people I actually like, I enjoy it very much!
Yeah, I know, people who think like you do. No diversity of opinion in that precinct.
It will be fine
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The parenthetical is hilarious. Think old spicey workshopped this idea with the communications team?
newfie
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Another mindless Trump voter!
I voted for the guy that won, who'd you vote for?
Non sequitur
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And this is how politically correct thinking starts which ultimately shuts down free speech. People without chips on their shoulders knew what he meant.
The West did not even know what Hitler was doing as the war was being fought it was only after that they discovered a lot of these atrocities
The West did not even know what Hitler was doing as the war was being fought it was only after that they discovered a lot of these atrocities
Catatonic
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It's always good to have someone else proofread your stuff.
newfie
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saw the clip kind of looked like he got tongue tied. mad dog explained it better later when he stated that chemical weapons had never been delivered by airplane during WWII or the Korean war. CBS nightly news led off with the story like they thought that was the number one story of the day. An Obama spokesman saying the same thing would not have gotten noticed.
It will be fine
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Laughing at an idiot that says blatant lies for a living is what shuts down free speech? The guy made a ridiculous claim and he is being mocked accordingly.
newfie
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we talking about Obama again or some other idiot?
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...426-obamas-legacy-the-trashing-of-free-speech
wkmac
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If it makes you feel better.
It will be fine
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What does your link have to do with Spicey "forgetting" about the gas chambers? Spicey literally said Hitler didn't use chemical weapons. If you don't see the humor in that I pity you, it is hilarious.
wkmac
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newfie
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I'm sorry you didn't mention spicer specifically in your post. You mentioned an idiot so I naturally thought of the biggest one this country has seen. Obama.
newfie
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I voted for:
your guy didn't win. mine did. If you need a few pointers on how to pick a winner next time let me know.
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If they have that many planes why did the Russians have to send their aircraft over there?Secretary of Defense Mattis claims the Tomahawk strike took out about 20% of the Syrian operational aircraft. I'm going on the assumption this means military aircraft and that the only target struck was the Shayrat Air Base. This doesn't count the Tomahawks that totally missed the target and hit elsewhere. Specific numbers given were that 20 operational planes were destroyed on the ground during the strike. In 2011' it was reported that Syria had the following aircraft inventory in their Air Force.
575 fixed-wing aircraft:
Combat/reconnaissance/OCU aircraft: 461
Training aircraft: 76
Transport aircraft: 26
191 rotary-wing aircraft:
Attack helicopters: 71
Armed transport/utility helicopters: 120
source: Center for Strategic and International Studies
CNN sourcing IHS Jane's Defense Analysts states the following: "Defense analysts IHS Jane's estimate the Syrian airforce has about 262 strike aircraft, although the company admits this may be an imperfect number due to the ongoing war."
Using the lower number from IHS Jane, how does Mattis take 20 destroyed aircraft and come up with the 20% number? At best 10% seems more proper here. Going to google earth and seeing a shot of the Shayrat Base with its hardened bunkers, 20 aircraft taken out seems plausible looking at the image but this doesn't equate to 20% of the Syrian Air Force. Did Mattis misspeak or make a math mistake which can happen or was he deliberately and intended to twist numbers for the sake of political PR?
2011?
wkmac
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I don't know, what do you think?
