With all due respect, you are reading it wrong.
What worries me about that, is in subsequent contracts, if that is taken out. I hope not, but I can see in 10 years or so, when the members aren't nearly concerned about that, because most won't have any time in the CSPF, that it'll be bargained away for something. Wouldn't hurt me horribly bad, but just enough to be annoying.
Thank you for everything that you do.You mean all the people that don't bother to vote, or have even been to a Union meeting ?
I was at the 2-man committee for that contract and know what was said and the
questions that were asked. Allowing UPS to pay their withdraw liability and start their
own pension plan was contingent on that provision. I still have all my hand-written notes
from that very meeting. All you have to do are read the comments on this forum and, it's
readily apparent how ill informed the membership really is. And it's their own fault.
Screw me ?
I'll stand by what I said, with almost 40yrs of experience to back me up.
Besides.... I have had people say a lot worse to me.
-Bug-
this contract the IBT allowed to even get this far.
You mean all the people that don't bother to vote, or have even been to a Union meeting ?
I was at the 2-man committee for that contract and know what was said and the
questions that were asked. Allowing UPS to pay their withdraw liability and start their
own pension plan was contingent on that provision. I still have all my hand-written notes
from that very meeting. All you have to do are read the comments on this forum and, it's
readily apparent how ill informed the membership really is. And it's their own fault.
Screw me ?
I'll stand by what I said, with almost 40yrs of experience to back me up.
Besides.... I have had people say a lot worse to me.
-Bug-
This will be "the richest contract ever". Lol.Everyone I've talked to, mainly pters and some 22.3s the consensus is this contract sucks, even though most have only read the bullet point highlights and didn't know the TA just leaked out. Many fear a strike because they can't afford it, mainly because they're pt and can't afford it even with outside income or ft that live beyond their means, but any of the more staunch or union conscious people are ready and want a better contract.
I work in a RTW state, and I respect the union for what I have, but I've had my issues with local leadership and if this POS of a contract goes through the only things keeping me from driving down to the union hall to remove myself from the union will be traffic and the cost of gas. I will buy a grill, steaks and a handle or rum just to sit on the picket line in protest of the absolute
Got a contract extension. No strike gonna happen. Our current IBT leaders don't have the cajones.Everyone I've talked to, mainly pters and some 22.3s the consensus is this contract sucks, even though most have only read the bullet point highlights and didn't know the TA just leaked out. Many fear a strike because they can't afford it, mainly because they're pt and can't afford it even with outside income or ft that live beyond their means, but any of the more staunch or union conscious people are ready and want a better contract.
I work in a RTW state, and I respect the union for what I have, but I've had my issues with local leadership and if this POS of a contract goes through the only things keeping me from driving down to the union hall to remove myself from the union will be traffic and the cost of gas. I will buy a grill, steaks and a handle or rum just to sit on the picket line in protest of the absolute
I was here before LB, will leave after LB. Same as Upstate. Good riddance, just glad that LB is no where near my buildings.
A 2% raise is laughable in 2018 with the economy how it is right now. Nobody is asking for 5 billion.
