The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

[Doublestandards]

“Despite all the pushback, rescheduling to Schedule III still makes the manufacturing, distribution, dispensing and possession of marijuana prohibited under the CSA.

Subsequently, advocates of marijuana reform have continued to characterize the proposed rule as largely symbolic, apart from some potential tax benefits that marijuana businesses could take advantage of after rescheduling is completed

Cat Packer, director of drug markets and legal regulation at the Drug Policy Alliance, called rescheduling a “lateral move.”

“There are folks who have said it’s decriminalization, but I disagree, in part, because the way that the Controlled Substances Act is set up,” Packer said. “’There’s no change to criminalization. So, there’s a means by which the government can continue criminalization while just simultaneously, for the first time, acknowledging that there’s currently accepted medical use.”

You gotta read the whole story and understand what you’re even talking about. They’re not going to they were never going to let people out jail. And the government will still be involved with the way you get and use marijuana. Just like with tobacco.. Biden couldn’t even keep his promise halfway. Because he never planned to.

Scheduled 1 doesn’t allow for research. It’s deemed “too dangerous to research with human subjects”

I hope this doesn’t get taken the way, if it does please know I didn’t mean it that way, but it does seem like you’re giving the republicans a lot more leeway and defenses on all of these arguments than you do the other side

Earlier when it comes to abortion we need compromise, but when it comes to my point of the republicans pushing back on just the simple act of moving it from schedule 1 to schedule 3 it gets defended

I’ve already criticized Biden for his role in this, I’ve criticized him plenty on the past, but I’m simply pointing out the republicans pushing back on moving marijuana from schedule 1 to 3 federally, which should have been a very very simple and easy compromise

 

[Doublestandards]

Looks pretty fun though

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1794376825369698344

You think that should be legal and easily accessible?

Genuinely asking, not trying to start a fight or criticize you

 

[Thebrownblob]

Scheduled 1 doesn’t allow for research. It’s deemed “too dangerous to research with human subjects”

I hope this doesn’t get taken the way, if it does please know I didn’t mean it that way, but it does seem like you’re giving the republicans a lot more leeway and defenses on all of these arguments than you do the other side

Earlier when it comes to abortion we need compromise, but when it comes to my point of the republicans pushing back on just the simple act of moving it from schedule 1 to schedule 3 it gets defended

I’ve already criticized Biden for his role in this, I’ve criticized him plenty on the past, but I’m simply pointing out the republicans pushing back on moving marijuana from schedule 1 to 3 federally, which should have been a very very simple and easy compromise

I didn’t say a word about the Republicans, they really are not consequential Joe Biden was president. He could’ve done what he promised or not promised at all if he couldn’t.

The buck stop with him. Where were all the pardons?

 

[Thebrownblob]

You think that should be legal and easily accessible?

Genuinely asking, not trying to start a fight or criticize you

It’s not legal, It’s also not very practical. But certainly might be fun at a shooting range.

 

[Doublestandards]

I didn’t say a word about the Republicans, they really are not consequential Joe Biden was president. He could’ve done what he promised or not promised at all if he couldn’t.

The buck stop with him. Where were all the pardons?

You quoted the part of the article I sent where the republicans pushed back on marijuana being rescheduled from 1 to 3

 

[Doublestandards]

It’s not legal, It’s also not very practical. But certainly might be fun at a shooting range.

I know it’s not legal. Well I think it is actually but you just need a lot of paperwork and tests beforehand, and $$$

But I’m always curious and wanting to learn more about people’s views on the second ammendment, because I’m wondering more lately if I’m wrong on it. I’ve always been pro gun rights, but then I see lots of talk about “shall not be infringed” talk and it does make me wonder, is there no line? And where and how and why do we draw it

 

[Thebrownblob]

You quoted the part of the article I sent where the republicans pushed back on marijuana being rescheduled from 1 to 3

That was the very first line. The rest of it went on to tell you how it wouldn’t even matter if it was rescheduled.. not one word about Republicans lol. And again, they were not consequential at all Joe Biden could’ve done a lot and he did nothing.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I know it’s not legal. Well I think it is actually but you just need a lot of paperwork and tests beforehand, and $$$

But I’m always curious and wanting to learn more about people’s views on the second ammendment, because I’m wondering more lately if I’m wrong on it. I’ve always been pro gun rights, but then I see lots of talk about “shall not be infringed” talk and it does make me wonder, is there no line? And where and how and why do we draw it

Nope, you’re thinking of suppressors. Turning your Glock, fully automatic is not legal.

 

[Doublestandards]

That was the very first line. The rest of it went on to tell you how it wouldn’t even matter if it was rescheduled.. not one word about Republicans lol. And again, they were not consequential at all Joe Biden could’ve done a lot and he did nothing.

It would allow more research to be done on it being taken off schedule 1. The article was about republicans pushing back on doing so

 

[Doublestandards]

Nope, you’re thinking of suppressors. Turning your Glock, fully automatic is not legal.

Interesting. Some fully automatic weapons are legal though right? I could have sworn that is the case.

 

[Thebrownblob]

It would allow more research to be done on it being taken off schedule 1. The article was about republicans pushing back on doing so

And they had absolutely no say in it. Biden could’ve done it if he wanted to. He certainly could’ve pardoned any of the people convicted of it. He did none of it.

 

[Doublestandards]

And they had absolutely no say in it. Biden could’ve done it if he wanted to. He certainly could’ve pardoned any of the people convicted of it. He did none of it.

Well that’s not true. He did get it started and it is being rescheduled to 3, and he did pardon federal marijuana convictions

Biden pardons thousands convicted of marijuana charges on federal lands and in Washington

The president is pardoning thousands of people convicted of use and simple possession of marijuana on federal lands and in the District of Columbia.

apnews.com

 

[Thebrownblob]

Interesting. Some fully automatic weapons are legal though right? I could have sworn that is the case.

The only way to get a fully automatic I believe is get approval and pay a fee and you can only own a Gun from Pre 1986. Gun ban. Modifying current weapons are illegal.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Well that’s not true. He did get it started and it is being rescheduled to 3, and he did pardon federal marijuana convictions

Biden pardons thousands convicted of marijuana charges on federal lands and in Washington

The president is pardoning thousands of people convicted of use and simple possession of marijuana on federal lands and in the District of Columbia.

apnews.com

“No one was freed from prison under last year’s action, but the pardons were meant to help thousands overcome obstacles to renting a home or finding a job. Similarly, no federal prisoners are eligible for release as a result of Friday’s pardon. “

Neat

Two Years After Cannabis Pardons, No One Has Been Released. But Biden Can Still Change That.

Through advocacy, policy change, education, release, commutation, expungement and reentry, Last Prisoner Project nonprofit is committed to social justice, criminal justice, prison reform and ending mass incarceration and the unjust war on drugs, legalizing cannabis, and freeing every last...

www.lastprisonerproject.org

Biden's marijuana pardons did not free a single federal prisoner or deliver the expungement he promised

A protest at the White House calls attention to the thousands of federal cannabis offenders who remain incarcerated.

reason.com

 

[vantexan]

Trump tried doing a national abortion ban in his first term and is now saying he’ll do one for 15 weeks

Why leave it up the states? Why not go one step further and leave it up to the woman

When did he try that? And it's left up to the States under the Constitution.

 

[Thebrownblob]

When did he try that? And it's left up to the States under the Constitution.

Didn’t you hear it in his project 2025

 

[vantexan]

Yeah, and all those voters they are importing. They’re gonna be very upset when they find out they’re even more conservative and family oriented than the American conservatives. Might really backfire on them big time.

It's what I'm hoping for.

 

[Doublestandards]

When did he try that? And it's left up to the States under the Constitution.

Didn’t you hear it in his project 2025

Trump pushes Senate to vote on 20-week abortion ban

President Trump on Friday called on the Senate to pass a bill banning abortions after 20 weeks.”I call upon the Senate to pass this important law and send it to my desk for signing,” Tr…

thehill.com

2018

 

[Appvol]

You think that should be legal and easily accessible?

Genuinely asking, not trying to start a fight or criticize you

Uh I really don’t care. It looks like it would be fun to shoot is all I know. Plus it’s already illegal!!!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583358262132764672

 

[newfie]

A compromise should be bittersweet for both parties. Meaning neither side got exactly what they wanted.

they could compromise in a minute. They would prefer to have the issue for the political fight.