The Vietnam war

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Bad Moon Risen'
So when you typed "gook", what did you think was being shot?
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Catatonic

Nine Lives
I watched the last hour of the final episode tonight.
My brother-in-law whom I worshipped was killed in Vietnam during the Tet offensive.
I tend to bury unpleasant events in my life somewhere in the recesses of my mind.
My contempt of the presidency was set in concrete after the absolute botching of the US getting in that war by Kennedy and Johnson and the lying and hiding of the truth.
But that was nothing compared to the Nixon years of the Vietnam war.
Nixon IMO was the most corrupt and the worst President the US ever had.

OK ... just needed to get that off my chest
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
so i guess it's no surprise but the show really does a lot of disservice to the final years of the war

they spent more time on Ia Drang than the Easter Offensive <__>
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
amazing documentary. ellsberg was very high up, sounds like his boss was kissinger. they lay out a brief US history with vietnam at one point which mentions destroying democracy there. ellsberg says at one point its best if everyone went to jail as in draft dodging, which i agree with.

 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
You know what I find the most disgusting thing about that time ?
How the left rejoiced in removing our troops and totally forgot to care about those people who died because we did .
Dictators took over many countries in that region and millions died ,but the left turned a blind eye to everything .
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You know what I find the most disgusting thing about that time ?
How the left rejoiced in removing our troops and totally forgot to care about those people who died because we did .
Dictators took over many countries in that region and millions died ,but the left turned a blind eye to everything .
The Left was and is sympathetic to communism. You've probably heard Putin's biggest disappointment was the break-up of the Soviet Union. I bet many Leftists have that in common with him.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
The Left was and is sympathetic to communism. You've probably heard Putin's biggest disappointment was the break-up of the Soviet Union. I bet many Leftists have that in common with him.
I have to disagree.
Most lefties in the US desire a Socialist Democracy that was common in Europe 20 years ago ... as do many Europeans now.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I have to disagree.
Most lefties in the US desire a Socialist Democracy that was common in Europe 20 years ago ... as do many Europeans now.
They were a lot friendlier to the Russians when they were communists. If Europe isn't a Socialist Democracy now how would you characterize it?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
LBJ fought them in Vietnam.
Europe is still a Socialist Democracy but trending more towards less handouts.
Southern Europe went off the deep end with handouts and are expecting northern Europe to bail them out. It all sounds great on paper but isn't sustainable. Note that when a million plus refugees recently flooded Europe they didn't stop in cash strapped countries. And who exactly was protesting LBJ and the war? Jane Fonda gave comfort and aid to the enemy. Did Hollywood run her out of town?
 
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