**Timecard Shaving and Timecard Viewer**

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by TommyKnockers, Feb 6, 2019.

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Have you suspected timecard shaving in your paycheck?

  1. Yes

    32 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. No

    11 vote(s)
    22.9%
  3. Don't care

    5 vote(s)
    10.4%
  1. TommyKnockers

    TommyKnockers New Member

    UPS unintentionally created a tool for employees to officially see that sups shave our timecards and edit/delete them as pleased.

    Timecard viewer is inside the UPS Go app. Get in the habit of clocking your time using an app with a decimal hourly view like Work Log.

    I use Work Log on Android here-

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arproductions.andrew.worklog

    Get in the habit of loging your time immediately after punching out. Compare Timecard Viewer times to your app log.

    Part timers should never have Unpaid Break time. If you are FT remember to account for unpaid time.

    If you punch in late because of diad issues, or because sups are looking for work, you will show as late and not be paid for that time. Make sure to tell your sup to CORRECT your start time.

    When you find your daily timecard off by 0.16 or more, you've been shaved for 10+ minutes. Ask for a print out of days in question and it will show who and when edited your card. It is not hard, they will just not want to do it. Take screen shots of shaved timecards because they are only available to view on Timecard Viewer for one week.

    They can not change your start time with out advanced notice, or edit your card for any reason. Know your guaranteed hours and don't let them tell you different. Remember you earned every hour you work and need those hours to qualify for a pension year, EVERY YEAR.

    Stop letting them steal from you so they can steal thier bonus. If you're getting :censored2:ed over, call them out. Nobody likes a thief.

    Good luck with your stewards.
     
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  2. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    I’ve never been shorted one minute in my entire UPS career.
     
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  3. TommyKnockers

    TommyKnockers New Member

    That's a great career. Part timers are having real issues these days.
     
  4. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Don't forget to file when not paid in time.
     
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  5. Elmo.goes.to.prom

    Elmo.goes.to.prom Active Member

    They change my code all the time.
     
  6. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    I haven't noticed any shaved time (I don't check every single day though) but I have noticed clever ways of that they've coded time in order to hide it from upper management. For a while I had time coded as "Attended School." If colleges gave us college credit for....whatever school my supervisors claim I've attended.....I'd have AT LEAST an associates degree in.....something.
     
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  7. currahee

    currahee Active Member

    I keep record of my hours and match them up on Upsers. A few peaks ago i caught my center manager who was changing start times in order to conserve time for weekend work. i alerted my steward who confronted center manager. He was unaware that employees could check their timecard and claimed a system "glitch". Times were correctly adjusted back before they were sent to payroll. Probably the only reason the center manager is still with company.
     
  8. BSWALKS

    BSWALKS Sabbra Cadabra

    How we are instructed to code pcm
     
  9. In my hub we write in our finish time and initial the time sheet. There is a column that has the start time and a column for "actual" start that is always +10 minutes. When I first started I asked about the discrepancy and the sup told me it was an allowance for the time it takes the flow to get to our belt. I hadn't given it much thought until now. Is this "shaving" time and should I tell my steward?
     
  10. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    Start time is the start time. No PCM's, getting doors opened, etc, before the start time.
     
  11. eats packages

    eats packages Why won't the door close?

    The part-time punch is far worse than the FT diad punch. No ability to change start time manually. If you volunteer to show up early. Make sure a sup rolls the scheduled start back. If you show up later than the scheduled start (due to an extra-contractual offer to start the sort earlier) then get to work immediately after punching in and make sure a sup does not touch it.
     
  12. MarvelousMunata

    MarvelousMunata The Scapegoat With Attitude

    Always have problems...but i screenshot and take pics of my clock in and out time. Im disputing lates that were logged in months ago because of sups going in and manually marking u late
     
  13. MarvelousMunata

    MarvelousMunata The Scapegoat With Attitude

    If your schedule says you start at 4 but they tell you you can start working st 350 but they dont start paying you until 4. Then yes. They are shaving time.
     
  14. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    yes they r
     
  15. looks something like this:
    Employee---------Start time----Actual Start----Initals----Finish

    Bacciagalupe-----18:00---------18:10---------------------22:00

    I get paid for 3hr 50min not 4hrs
     
  16. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    That’s the oldest trick in the book
     
  17. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Your start time doesn't begin until your first delivery .
     
  18. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    What is?
     
  19. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    Telling joeshmo to go open the doors or let’s start the pcm 5 minutes early so you guys can leave

    Or I need to go over this with you

    Not until start time
     
  20. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    All they are trying to do is help the driver.