UPS Freight RIP

Vincent Car Go

Trailer Relocation Specialist
Well I was out from work only to return and find out freight was sold. I know you package guys hate us but we really do work hard.
This will be a interesting transition. The big push is we will get new trucks. Most of my co-workers dont want new trucks. We want the benefits and those new trucks will cost a boatload of money... and that needs to come from somewhere.

This new company ... hopefully will be more driver friendly and learn to create a team of experienced drivers that can help the company move forward. My terminal is pretty cool... we all get along and have a pretty good time delivering freight. Its sad that in the past drivers really went that extra mile to achieve the best results in the least amount of time. But we have managers that if they dont come up with a idea... its just not good.

Im guessing small pac will be inundated soon and now wont have the extra drivers that they pulled from freight when they needed us.

I hope both teams do well.
 

Whereistheunion

Well-Known Member
Well I was out from work only to return and find out freight was sold. I know you package guys hate us but we really do work hard.
This will be a interesting transition. The big push is we will get new trucks. Most of my co-workers dont want new trucks. We want the benefits and those new trucks will cost a boatload of money... and that needs to come from somewhere.

This new company ... hopefully will be more driver friendly and learn to create a team of experienced drivers that can help the company move forward. My terminal is pretty cool... we all get along and have a pretty good time delivering freight. Its sad that in the past drivers really went that extra mile to achieve the best results in the least amount of time. But we have managers that if they dont come up with a idea... its just not good.

Im guessing small pac will be inundated soon and now wont have the extra drivers that they pulled from freight when they needed us.

I hope both teams do well.
I feel bad for the way UPS freight, has been treated. The WEAK NMA is a start, UPS virtually locked you guys out during the negotiations. And now UPS Freight has been sold without Union approval or knowledge. JUST LIKE THAT THE UNION COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE 15,000 MEMBERS IN 2 YEARS DUE TO IT'S OWN NEGLIGENCE.
 

Just A UPS Guy

That's right, Iceman...I am dangerous.
I feel bad for the way UPS freight, has been treated. The WEAK NMA is a start, UPS virtually locked you guys out during the negotiations. And now UPS Freight has been sold without Union approval or knowledge. JUST LIKE THAT THE UNION COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE 15,000 MEMBERS IN 2 YEARS DUE TO IT'S OWN NEGLIGENCE.

Why would UPS need union approval to sell off one of it's companies?
 

Just A UPS Guy

That's right, Iceman...I am dangerous.
They don't. However the contract goes with the Teamsters goes with the employees to the new company.

I understand that. It was brought up that the company was sold without union approval, I was asking why that poster thought it necessary for the union to sign off on the sale.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
It might be a way for them to declare bankruptcy so they can liquidate the assets. Take the money and run. I hope not but things like that have been known to happen.
 

Just A UPS Guy

That's right, Iceman...I am dangerous.
It might be a way for them to declare bankruptcy so they can liquidate the assets. Take the money and run. I hope not but things like that have been known to happen.

It has, but TFI is no joke, and to spend almost $1B to establish a huge US footprint just set up a bankruptcy is a bit of a stretch. They're worth almost $7B and are real players, I just hope they are willing to negotiate fairly. They have some union outfits in Canada, so it seems like they will, but I don't know how strong their contracts are.
 

meritocracy

Well-Known Member
Duty of successor employers. An employer who purchases or otherwise acquires the operations of another may be obligated to recognize and bargain with the union that represented the employees before the business was transferred. In general, these bargaining obligations exist—and the purchaser is termed a successor employer—when there is a substantial continuity in the employing enterprise despite the sale and transfer of the busi ness. Whether the purchaser is a successor employer is dependent on several factors, including the number of employees taken over by the purchasing employer, the similarity in operations and product of the two employers, the manner in which the purchaser integrates the purchased operations into its other operations, and the character of the bargaining relationship and agreement between the union and the original employer

 
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