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newfie

Well-Known Member
. He's had 3 wives and brags about sexual assault, besides the whole easier for a camel to pass ?

seems we have forgotten, while Trump bragged about his wealth getting him easy access we had an enabler who covered up for actual real physical assaults that would have gotten anyone else thrown in jail.

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TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
OK so you believe you should pay your hard earned tax money to pay the government to do nothing. got it.
if the nothing is better than a total :censored2: show, then yes absolutely

thankfully, the government rolls on whether the President is getting everything on his agenda or not
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
if the nothing is better than a total :censored2: show, then yes absolutely

thankfully, the government rolls on whether the President is getting everything on his agenda or not

you should perhaps check again. Other then brief moments it has not rolled on very much.
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
you should perhaps check again. Other then brief moments it has not rolled on very much.
well the military is still doing it's thing, the IRS is still doing it's thing, the various Dept.'s are doing their things, so yeah it's rolling on just fine

Congress is not rolling on, and frankly that's fine with me, most of what they put out is :censored2: anyways
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
well the military is still doing it's thing, the IRS is still doing it's thing, the various Dept.'s are doing their things, so yeah it's rolling on just fine

Congress is not rolling on, and frankly that's fine with me, most of what they put out is :censored2: anyways

Great point -Military is at an all time low of readiness . One of the reasons given is sequestration which was a byproduct of disruptive combative congressional politics. any other arguments you wish to make?

"Gen. Allyn told lawmakers that only three of the service’s 50 brigade combat teams have enough men and functional equipment to deploy immediately if needed, adding that could become the norm if sequestration is kept in place"

Military readiness for modern warfare at risk, Pentagon chiefs tell Congress
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
Great point -Military is at an all time low of readiness . One of the reasons given is sequestration which was a byproduct of disruptive combative congressional politics. any other arguments you wish to make?

"Gen. Allyn told lawmakers that only three of the service’s 50 brigade combat teams have enough men and functional equipment to deploy immediately if needed, adding that could become the norm if sequestration is kept in place"

Military readiness for modern warfare at risk, Pentagon chiefs tell Congress

1. that's only the army, that's not even counting the 6 USMC MEB's, or the possibility of simply bombing whoever from a base in Missouri

2. readiness to do what exactly? invade someone? intervene in not-our-business? put "boots on the ground" to support some UN crap? no thanks to any and all of that
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
seems we have forgotten, while Trump bragged about his wealth getting him easy access we had an enabler who covered up for actual real physical assaults that would have gotten anyone else thrown in jail.

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Haven't "forgotten" it's just no one cares anymore. Someone else being objectionable doesn't excuse Trump's behavior. He's the president you can't keep deflecting to a lost opposition candidate forever. Own it, he's a bad person that you support.
 

ImWaitingForTheDay

Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
Ho hum --- another weekend at drumpfs Place --- 5th time in less than two months, and costing US taxpayers another $3-5 million, plus security costs at drumpf Tower.

I wonder if drumpf might consider some cost savings to help out some of his voters with Meals on Wheels.

Oh --- I thought so.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
1. that's only the army, that's not even counting the 6 USMC MEB's, or the possibility of simply bombing whoever from a base in Missouri

2. readiness to do what exactly? invade someone? intervene in not-our-business? put "boots on the ground" to support some UN crap? no thanks to any and all of that

Ah so everyone else is 100 percent ready and the congress only shorted the army to 6 percent readiness. Sounds like a desperate argument you are spinning.

If you don't know the mission of the military then you probably should leave this argument to grown ups.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
from who?

whoever attacks. Presently that would be Al Quaeda, Isis and many others. Then Russia who could destabilize the world if they though the US could not mobilize and of course North Korea who is trying to develop the capability to do so.

The key thought and I know its complicated is that Readiness means you're thwart aggression by being ready at all times. If you have to ask the bad guys to wait while you get ready then you're generally screwed.
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
whoever attacks. Presently that would be Al Quaeda, Isis and many others. Then Russia who could destabilize the world if they though the US could not mobilize and of course North Korea who is trying to develop the capability to do so.

The key thought and I know its complicated is that Readiness means you're thwart aggression by being ready at all times. If you have to ask the bad guys to wait while you get ready then you're generally screwed.

al qaeda is basically wiped out and not by dropping combat brigades around the world; we killed them with good intel and killer drones; ISIS can be beaten with air power alone, or even just letting the Russians do what they do best

Russia doesn't want to destabilize the world, they only want to secure their land borders; this has been their foreign policy objective since Peter the Great

North Korea is leashed to the will of China; they can do nothing, even survive, without their okay

so why do we need more than a dozen drop-ready infantry brigades for any of that?

Ah so everyone else is 100 percent ready and the congress only shorted the army to 6 percent readiness.
there is no country on earth with a higher readiness than ourselves......are you serious?
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Haven't "forgotten" it's just no one cares anymore. Someone else being objectionable doesn't excuse Trump's behavior. He's the president you can't keep deflecting to a lost opposition candidate forever. Own it, he's a bad person that you support.

the problem as I continue to point out and you continue to while out is the following:

a) you have trump who bragged that his money and power allowed him easy acess to a womens private areas. you folks in the interest of creating something tried to turn that into an admission of sexual assault. Meanwhile no one has come forth to provide any proof of this being anymore then locker room chatter.
despite every member of the press and media hounds like Gloria allred trying to create something.

b) you have Bill Clinton. Raped women. Violated women. Sexually harassed women. Use his position as president to engage in extra-marital affairs and to sexually assault at least one women. His wife instead of divorcing this sexual assaulter enabled his activities and threatened his victims into submission.

who did you support B. who do you continue to fabricate and pretend to be outraged about A.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
al qaeda is basically wiped out and not by dropping combat brigades around the world; we killed them with good intel and killer drones; ISIS can be beaten with air power alone, or even just letting the Russians do what they do best

Russia doesn't want to destabilize the world, they only want to secure their land borders; this has been their foreign policy objective since Peter the Great

North Korea is leashed to the will of China; they can do nothing, even survive, without their okay

so why do we need more than a dozen drop-ready infantry brigades for any of that?

you don't understand readiness do you? In any case you're argument was you were fine with a congress that spend your tax dollars deliberately doing nothing because the military is rolling on. the military readiness is at an all time low because Congress has done nothing about it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Ho hum --- another weekend at drumpfs Place --- 5th time in less than two months, and costing US taxpayers another $3-5 million, plus security costs at drumpf Tower.

I wonder if drumpf might consider some cost savings to help out some of his voters with Meals on Wheels.

Oh --- I thought so.

get used to it.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
the problem as I continue to point out and you continue to while out is the following:

a) you have trump who bragged that his money and power allowed him easy acess to a womens private areas. you folks in the interest of creating something tried to turn that into an admission of sexual assault. Meanwhile no one has come forth to provide any proof of this being anymore then locker room chatter.
despite every member of the press and media hounds like Gloria allred trying to create something.

b) you have Bill Clinton. Raped women. Violated women. Sexually harassed women. Use his position as president to engage in extra-marital affairs and to sexually assault at least one women. His wife instead of divorcing this sexual assaulter enabled his activities and threatened his victims into submission.

who did you support B. who do you continue to fabricate and pretend to be outraged about A.
I didn't support Hillary. This is where your excuse breaks down. Trump is a bad person, full stop. You claim to be religious and still support this bad person. Get over Hillary, she lost. The person who matters now is Trump. If all you have is deflection to someone else you think is worse this will be a long 4 years.
 
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