Was Vinny Perrone of Local 804 Out Of Line If Allegations Are True?

[Integrity]

Because it's a waste of time. Really don't care anymore. Teamsters are a joke. I'll take UPS money and be happy.

Yes the rank and file membership has pretty much become exactly as you described. The voting turn out says a lot.

Thankful some still want to participate in the Union.

 

[meritocracy]

Because it's a waste of time. Really don't care anymore. Teamsters are a joke. I'll take UPS money and be happy.

Aren't you a Teamster? The union is the membership. Get up and do something.

 

[Integrity]

Do you?

Yes and no.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Aren't you a Teamster? The union is the membership. Get up and do something.

Yup- I have. Waste of time. I'll let them keep getting fatter.

 

[Integrity]

Great. You? We don't have any because our local allows part-timers to work full-time hours.

I care.

What is your grievance about this issue?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I care.

What is your grievance about this issue?

Filed more than one. BA lets UPS do it. Done with it.

 

[Integrity]

Aren't you a Teamster? The union is the membership. Get up and do something.

The membership is the reason for the Union but in and of itself the membership is not the Union.

 

[Integrity]

Yup- I have. Waste of time. I'll let them keep getting fatter.

IMO
Someone with your attitude should be running for the next available Union position.

 

[Integrity]

Filed more than one. BA lets UPS do it. Done with it.

I didn’t ask you how many grievances. I meant what is the contractual grounds for your grievance?

 

[Integrity]

Yup- I have. Waste of time. I'll let them keep getting fatter.

Have you run for any Union position?

 

[meritocracy]

IMO
Someone with your attitude should be running for the next available Union position.

A few years ago I heard someone say that people who are pissed at the union always end up being the best union leaders/organizers.

 

[Wally]

Do you want to work a 40 hour week?

Sure. You start us a bit earlier and even 10 is ok with me.

 

[Integrity]

A few years ago I heard someone say that people who are pissed at the union always end up being the best union leaders/organizers.

I appreciate this.

I have seen several underestimate what goes when you get in the belly of the beast that is Teamster/UPS relations and some of the closed door politics that are a necessary part of Union effectiveness.

 

[Integrity]

Sure. You start us a bit earlier and even 10 is ok with me.

So you say you’ll take 40- 50 hours? 50 is your limit.

 

[Wally]

So you say you’ll take 40- 50 hours? 50 is your limit.

Yea, even at 50, that's an extra day plus working.

 

[Integrity]

Yea, even at 50, that's an extra day plus working.

What if others may be satisfied with 50-60?

 

[Wally]

What if others may be satisfied with 50-60?

Entirely feasible that it could be optional.

 

[Integrity]

Entirely feasible that it could be optional.

Ok. Have you submitted possible contract language changes in the past?

What language might you suggest to accommodate the right to work a 40 hour week and the right to have the amount of overtime that one personally desires?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Slightly

No excessive OT here. We must be doing something right. No ass kissing. No begging. No using century old intimidation and/or violent tactics. We’re known as the more “union” shop in our local despite that. Weird.

 

[Integrity]

No excessive OT here. We must be doing something right. No ass kissing. No begging. No using century old intimidation and/or violent tactics. We’re known as the more “union” shop in our local despite that. Weird.

What would you consider excessive OT? over 40 hours?