The question I have, and it really bothers me...the Bible makes it clear that relatively few will make it to heaven in comparison to the many who will spend eternity in hell. Knowing this, why did God allow the world's population to explode up to over 7 billion in the last century? If he is just why did he allow so many to come into the world who will never have a chance of eternal salvation?
What does the Bible say about...........???? "On Topic"
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BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
God the Father resides in the Christian. John wrote, "God dwells in us" (1 Jn. 4:12; cf. vv. 13,15,16). Does God personally dwell in us? John explicitly states that God dwells in us, but I don't know anyone who maintains his personal Being is in us.
Jesus also dwells in us.
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin'' (Rom. 8:10).
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you" (Rom. 8:9).
Why make Christ's indwelling in Romans 8:10 representative, but make the Holy Spirit's indwelling in Romans 8:9, the verse before, personal?
Like I said, the how is the debate.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
God allows us choice in all things. Even having babies.
FromOffTheStreets
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The reason few will make it is because they refuse to humble themselves to the creator. They choose to be their own God & serve themselves.
The fact that there is a way is just.
You might have a better argument focusing on "calvinism" or election.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Talked to God the other day. He said that he's still waiting for his Section 8 housing application to be approved before he can give the contractor the go ahead to build some more. In the meantime he's putting people in cages like they're doing on the US Mexican border. He said that he saw it on Fox News and the commentators thought it was a great idea so he's do the same thing too.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
This is the question that resulted in me digging deeper....
If the Holy Spirit operates separate and apart from the word of God, what does he do?
FromOffTheStreets
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Yeah. Sovereign election is in the text but I don't agree with the idea that God randomly chooses people for no reason like some calvinist state
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Wouldn't election rule out your choice the matter?
Please quote the text with sovereign election and explain. Thanks
Non sequitur
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Choice maybe the most powerful force in the universe.
FromOffTheStreets
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If the holy spirit only operates within a believer while they are reading the bible then what goes on within the person when they are not reading the bible?
I think its more of a situation where you have the individual & their soul. The soul is the actual consciousness of the person. the spirit is on one side & the flesh on the other. If you partake in the flesh the spirit gets "weaker", if you partake in the spirit the flesh gets weaker.
FromOffTheStreets
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Off hand Roman's chapter 9. Its scattered throughout the gospel of John quite a bit. Also shows up in the NT a little.
I never really recognized it until I heard someone speak on it a while back
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Funny, because when I talked to Him, He told me He’s been trying to reach YOU since you know everything, too.
He said His calls go ignored because your caller ID shows Him as “caller unknown”!
You do know blasphemy is a sin, right?
Indecisi0n
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Is this copyrighted? If so , can I have permission to put this on my business cards?
FromOffTheStreets
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Armenianism- 100% choice
Hard line Calvinism- 100% chosen
I take more of a middle stance. I do believe "some people " are chosen or elected as messengers to proclaim but I believe that for the vast majority it is up to them to choose.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Wrong.
Midi-chlorians are inside everyone, they connect us to the greatest force in the universe. It's a symbiotic relationship going back to the beginning of time. In fact, life itself might not be possible without them.
Obviously their concentration is different for each individual. Some have such a high amount they can defy physics and perform what might appear miraculous. The greatest of the sith have brought the dead back to life with this connection to the force. The greatest of the Jedi have used them to attain immortality.
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It will be fine
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Free will is a myth.
So the billions who have never seen a Bible...what's their choice?
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And those who've never heard the gospel?
I'm asking a sincere question. By the way the Obama administration built those cages and put people in them.
