What else can they do torture us?

idrivethetruck

Slow & steady wins the race.
Unless he actually could care less. Maybe he cares a lot about making decisions!
They only decisions sups have to make anymore is whether to follow the puppet-master's commands or be escorted out the door by security. While I hate being micro-managed right now, I would hate it more if I were in their shoes.
 

bigblu 2 you

Well-Known Member
You don't have stop lights? You don't wait in traffic? These are perfect times to wipe your face or take a drink.
there are also times in between these "perfect"times to do these.i am talking about sweat in your eyes,a bee on your neck,things you cant control or wait on.you sound like a supe wanta-be.maybe they will give you a supe jr. kit(1 cheap tie,1 methods book/with,340 ways to find faults)but i want to take this opportunity to thank you for telling me the perfect times to do these things,i know you would drive to the first available stop sign before you would wipe sweat or any other foreign fluid or object from your eyes.
 

packageguy

Well-Known Member
They only decisions sups have to make anymore is whether to follow the puppet-master's commands or be escorted out the door by security. While I hate being micro-managed right now, I would hate it more if I were in their shoes.

The only decision they make I think, is to order lunch, They won't say anything, any questions you have they say see the center manager
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
The only decision they make I think, is to order lunch, They won't say anything, any questions you have they say see the center manager
I don't see the center manager as a decision maker either....they use to be but not any more...just curious why they are paid so much and not able to decide the most basic things.
 

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
I don't see the center manager as a decision maker either....they use to be but not any more...just curious why they are paid so much and not able to decide the most basic things.
actually they are not paid so much anymore. None of my sups (well maybe a few) but most will not reach millionaire status as they did in the past. It is my opinion, and only that, from what I have heard, that the stock rewards are not near what they used to be, nor is the pay. And that is sad. A supervisor should not make the same or less than an hourly. It gives the best and the brightest no reason to move on in the company.
 

bigblu 2 you

Well-Known Member
actually they are not paid so much anymore. None of my sups (well maybe a few) but most will not reach millionaire status as they did in the past. It is my opinion, and only that, from what I have heard, that the stock rewards are not near what they used to be, nor is the pay. And that is sad. A supervisor should not make the same or less than an hourly. It gives the best and the brightest no reason to move on in the company.
"best and brightest"?lol, our supes look like the third from the bottom on the evolution chart.and millionaire status?,ive yet to see one yet with a tie that didnt look like it came off the blue light special rack at k-mart.just sayin
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
"best and brightest"?lol, our supes look like the third from the bottom on the evolution chart.and millionaire status?,ive yet to see one yet with a tie that didnt look like it came off the blue light special rack at k-mart.just sayin

And the sad reality is, they wouldn't even consider you for management! :sad-little:
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I don't see the center manager as a decision maker either....they use to be but not any more...just curious why they are paid so much and not able to decide the most basic things.

Not sure where you think they are paid that much but what they are paid to do is:
Plan their operations so a # driver plan can be put in place to get everything accomplished for the least cost.
Organize the workforce and other resources so the packages get picked up and delivered.
Control (or Execute) the efforts to achieve the objectives with the resources and costs developed in the planning.

The center management team does get to make some decisions as long as it is compliant with the directives and constraints in the orders given to them. Perhaps this lack of decision making responsibility is why UPS feels they can pay less - I am not privy to that thought process.

UPS use to be a very decentralized company with the generalized philosophy that decisions were made at the lowest level that was appropriate. This was very unusual for a large company or corporation and many of my friends who owned their own businesses were amazed at the level of decision making done at the bottom level of management. They would often comment that a center management person at UPS would make decisions that they as an owner of a business would only allow to make themselves. Those days appear to be in the past at UPS with the new philosophy that decisions are made at the highest levels possible.
 

hubrat

Squeaky Wheel
Those days appear to be in the past at UPS with the new philosophy that decisions are made at the highest levels possible.

Great op-Ed in my paper this morning, titled Stewards on Boards. This would go much further to ensure that those with such power actually care about the long-term future of the company:

In your June 19 CEO Salary Survey, you stated that those in your survey made $93,992 a week in average total compensation as contrasted with the $702 per week average earnings for working North Carolinians as a group. As a former chairman of the state's jobs council and one who had the privilege of serving a Fortune 500 company for 17 years, I have watched with ever-growing alarm these pay inequality trends and that of the obvious direct corollary in the startling increase in corporate board member compensation.

Until relatively recent times, board members generally received very little remuneration for services. That continues to be the case for some shining success stories such as Berkshire Hathaway. A quick Web search took me to Warren Buffett's Feb. 26, 2011, letter to Berkshire shareholders. Buffett says Berkshire's board members receive token compensation: no options, no restricted stock and, for that matter, virtually no cash.

Stewards are what Buffett calls his board members. Only through reclaiming our unselfish stewardship mandate for board members can we restore some sanity to our compensation for top executives.
 
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