What Is The Teamsters Official Position On Socialized Medicine?

DriveInDriveOut

Proud Deplorable
Other countries do it and do it well. I'm not saying it will be as good but it will benefit this country by helping everyone out. It'll be good so long as they do a model similar to even that of Canada.
Canada's average wait time for a specialist was 21.2 weeks in 2018. Wait time for an MRI was 11 weeks.

To see an orthopedic surgeon the wait was 41 weeks. Imagine screwing up your ankle and being out of work for 41 weeks before they even get around to doing the surgery.

No thanks.

 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
Canada's average wait time for a specialist was 21.2 weeks in 2018. Wait time for an MRI was 11 weeks.

To see an orthopedic surgeon the wait was 41 weeks. Imagine screwing up your ankle and being out of work for 41 weeks before they even get around to doing the surgery.

No thanks.

Sounds like workman's comp at UPS.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Proud Deplorable
Even Crazy Bernie, the architect of the Biden platform said we can't afford Medicare for all.
Sanders admitted his Medicare for all plan would raise taxes $10,000 for the average family, but insisted they would save money from lower healthcare costs. Since we don't pay 10k a year in healthcare costs, well, you can figure that one out.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
Sanders admitted his Medicare for all plan would raise taxes $10,000 for the average family, but insisted they would save money from lower healthcare costs. Since we don't pay 10k a year in healthcare costs, well, you can figure that one out.
Take a look at your 1095c I bet it's a lot more than $10k.
 

von kaiser

Knock, drop, and roll
Pretty much.
You might want to read the Biden-Sanders Unity Task Force platform recommendations. It's on Joe's campaign website.
They couldn’t even agree on legalizing marijuana, let alone Bernie’s more lofty ideas like the Green New Deal and M4A.

Conservatives are right that Biden’s mind is gone and he’s being controlled, but it’s not by the progressive far left.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Proud Deplorable
They couldn’t even agree on legalizing marijuana, let alone Bernie’s more lofty ideas like the Green New Deal and M4A.
Again, I think you and every voter needs to look at the Biden-Sanders Unity Task Force platform.

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von kaiser

Knock, drop, and roll
Again, I think you and every voter needs to look at the Biden-Sanders Unity Task Force platform.

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Full of weasel words. If the Democrats believed in M4A they would have pushed it through in Obama’s first term. Instead we got Nixon’s plan.

I’ll believe it when I see it on the GND. Will probably just be a lot of back room deals and kickbacks to insiders.

I don’t think you realize that the Democrat party establishment doesn’t want the Green New Deal; if they did then they wouldn’t have primaried Ed Markey.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Proud Deplorable
Full of weasel words. If the Democrats believed in M4A they would have pushed it through in Obama’s first term. Instead we got Nixon’s plan.

I’ll believe it when I see it on the GND. Will probably just be a lot of back room deals and kickbacks to insiders.
Sanders has a boiling pot of water he wants to throw everyone into, and Biden wants you to step into his warm pot. End result will be the same.

Bottom line is it won't benefit us and will lead to higher taxes. Some people think that's okay if it helps poor people, and that's fine as long as they're informed.
 

von kaiser

Knock, drop, and roll
Sanders has a boiling pot of water he wants to throw everyone into, and Biden wants you to step into his warm pot. End result will be the same.

Bottom line is it won't benefit us and will lead to higher taxes. Some people think that's okay if it helps poor people, and that's fine as long as they're informed.
the Dems are trying to appease the insurgent progressive left, but haven’t bent the knee yet. Nor will they without a fight. They will however continue to call Trump the most dangerous president in history while voting to increase his military budget.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Take a look at your 1095c I bet it's a lot more than $10k.
This isn't the FedEx forum mak, we don't pay premiums.
UPS pays the Union roughly 26,000 annually per individual to cover just our Health and Welfare..Does anybody remember the old "Cadillac Health and Welfare tax" plan first implemented with Obama Care back in the day...

You can plan on the same sort of tactic if the Democrats get into power.."Share the Wealth"..They will go after the "Rich" that can afford to buy the most expensive H/W packages on the market. Will the Teamsters blue collar members be tax exempt again with their "Medicare for All" plans....

You are talking about 10,000 additional taxes annually coming out of your pay checks, at UPS our hourly raises of roughly 1 dollar only would account for +2,500 per year...Do the Math and see if with the next round of negotiations whether we will be falling behind with our take home....
 

JJinVA

Well-Known Member
As much as I love that meme, as a millenial I completely agree w him. The dems only have one objective: retain power for themselves. If they're able to talk stupid dreamers into believing socialism will benefit them, or even full blown communism, they will do it. It's obvious to anyone paying attention these days which is why they will all be booted out here shortly
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
As much as I love that meme, as a millenial I completely agree w him. The dems only have one objective: retain power for themselves. If they're able to talk stupid dreamers into believing socialism will benefit them, or even full blown communism, they will do it. It's obvious to anyone paying attention these days which is why they will all be booted out here shortly
Millennial. LOL.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
All these rich liberals that want single payer for you, will have their private doctors and hospitals after they ruin our system, so don't worry about them. If need be, they will fly private jets out of the country.
 

Jumpin Jack Flash

Well-Known Member
The fight is in who you elect, and these people are not hiding what they are planning.

They get the votes and Teamcare is out. Your paycheck is the same but now you are forced to fund new taxes to pay fot the program.
Universal healthcare is better than corporate welfare! Which costs much more!
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
UPS pays the Union roughly 26,000 annually per individual to cover just our Health and Welfare..Does anybody remember the old "Cadillac Health and Welfare tax" plan first implemented with Obama Care back in the day...

You can plan on the same sort of tactic if the Democrats get into power.."Share the Wealth"..They will go after the "Rich" that can afford to buy the most expensive H/W packages on the market. Will the Teamsters blue collar members be tax exempt again with their "Medicare for All" plans....

You are talking about 10,000 additional taxes annually coming out of your pay checks, at UPS our hourly raises of roughly 1 dollar only would account for +2,500 per year...Do the Math and see if with the next round of negotiations whether we will be falling behind with our take home....
So our union endorsed this guy. They must feel paying more is good for its membership? Same with taxing fossil fuel, ending energy production, and allowing unlimited immigration?
 
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