Why are the negotiations so private?

[BigUnionGuy]

That Hybrid drivers are coming whether we like it or not... but thanks for the typical Teamster response...

Have you seen the language ?

Then again, if it's voted in that's the contract.


The company can't force someone to bid the job. If you don't like it.... don't bid it.



-Bug-

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

....and that is certainly their prerogative.

All I'm saying is that they have a choice, a choice they pay for.
This choice is a simple "yes" or "no" answer, but they seem to prefer to not answer at all....

All we are doing here is kicking around ideas, in hopes of making a little sense, out of nonsense.

Where is my retro check.... That's all everyone is going to be worried about.

 

[bowhnterdon]

Have you seen the language ?

Then again, if it's voted in that's the contract.


The company can't force someone to bid the job. If you don't like it.... don't bid it.



-Bug-

So if we vote it down, they will re-negotiate? I mean, Teamsters would never enforce something the members voted down.. right?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

So if we vote it down, they will re-negotiate? I mean, Teamsters would never enforce something the members voted down.. right?

It might behove you.... to read the IBT constitution.

 

[bowhnterdon]

It might behove you.... to read the IBT constitution.

So they cannot? Man, I feel better. I thought they might change the Constitution to fit their needs. They wouldn’t do that either...right?

 

[PT Car Washer]

The starting rate for a preloader or sorter was $9/hr in 1982.

In 2018, it's $11/hr. (and change depending where you are)

Since PAL preloaders in my building do not receive the extra $1/hr pay. $10.35/hr.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Where is my retro check.... That's all everyone is going to be worried about.

My household is borderline tax brackets as is. If it's delayed till next year I'll lose 2% of most of the retro check to Uncle Sam.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

My household is borderline tax brackets as is. If it's delayed till next year I'll lose 2% of most of the retro check to Uncle Sam.

Donate some tax deductible money to the Gumby beer fund

Youre welcome.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Since PAL preloaders in my building do not receive the extra $1/hr pay. $10.35/hr.

Your Local, let that happen ?

Wow.

 

[bowhnterdon]

Your Local, let that happen ?

Wow.

We agree!! Any preload work should be considered skilled and receive the $1

 

[PT Car Washer]

Your Local, let that happen ?

Wow.

Somebody made a deal.

 

[wilberforce15]

For the most part they are a disposable work force and only care about the now and not tomorrow.

So, you're asking them to have taken a $10-11/hr job with no benefits or days off, and expecting them all to become active in the union and hang around and vote, on the possibility their work may pay off with a few extra bucks at some point in the future that may not involve them being here? And they're supposed to do this when they can do less work for the same or more money right down the street?

Why don't you just give them the inflation-adjusted equivalent of what you got and stop blaming the victim.

Your Local, let that happen ?

Mine is the same.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Why don't you just give them the inflation-adjusted equivalent of what you got and stop blaming the victim.

Uh, ok, inflation adjusted that would be roughly $9.50 to start, $10.50 after 90 days. Wasn't enough 6 years ago, not enough now.

Oddly, it's part timers that are their own worst enemy, complaining about catch up raises. I have no problem with their pay being raised despite the fact that I was underpaid when I started.....

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Uh, ok, inflation adjusted that would be roughly $9.50 to start, $10.50 after 90 days. Wasn't enough 6 years ago, not enough now.

Oddly, it's part timers that are their own worst enemy, complaining about catch up raises. I have no problem with their pay being raised despite the fact that I was underpaid when I started.....

And you are way overpaid now....

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

And you are way overpaid now....

Settle down Dave.
SOB

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Settle down Dave.
SOB

You Mother.....

 

[Benben]

Can anyone shed some light on this issue? It is my belief that if our money (union dues) pay these elected officials, we should have a detailed transcript of the acutal meetings... like what the union is asking for and what the company is offering. The only thing I’ve found about the negotiations on ups uprising is vague to say the least. Why so secret? Why do they want to keep us in the dark? Why do we allow it?

Hoffa Jr. only likes to his members in the dark!

 

[wide load]

with 25 years of federal oversight for mafia influence, murders, bribes, extortion and etc. Trust. Riiiight

I agree. It was a better time back then. Maybe corrupt, but we got what was owed.

 

[wide load]

Sounds real fine ,but the fact is the starting wage for a preloader has risen $1/hr in 36 years. 1982 $9/hr. 2018 $10.35/hr. How much has your wage gone up in that time?

My god. Who cares about the starting wage? He gets what he gets because he and his peers vote. I would have traded the front end bump (that will be minimum wage anyway) for a higher end top out. But that’s the problem with not looking beyond today.
“I can give you one cookie right now, or 3 cookies tomorrow?”
Guess what happened?

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Where is my retro check.... That's all everyone is going to be worried about.

Be like

lmfao. Smh.