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thats just something that nowadays less and less people are able to do because of unmeasured inflation.
No. That’s just something people nowadays are less and less WILLING to do because they have excuses for everything. There are lots of foreign born people living around me, legal and illegal. Do you think they use all your excuses to not leave home? No way. They live in a house with multiple strangers to save money to buy their own. Guy I work with from Egypt, bought a $500,000 last year. No way can he afford that house by himself. He rents out multiple rooms and is able to live in a great neighborhood.

Keep coming up with excuses instead of finding ways to make things happen, and you’ll always live at home with Mommy and Daddy. FYI, no normal woman wants a guy living at home with the parents.
 

rickyb

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No. That’s just something people nowadays are less and less WILLING to do because they have excuses for everything. There are lots of foreign born people living around me, legal and illegal. Do you think they use all your excuses to not leave home? No way. They live in a house with multiple strangers to save money to buy their own. Guy I work with from Egypt, bought a $500,000 last year. No way can he afford that house by himself. He rents out multiple rooms and is able to live in a great neighborhood.

Keep coming up with excuses instead of finding ways to make things happen, and you’ll always live at home with Mommy and Daddy. FYI, no normal woman wants a guy living at home with the parents.
yea but normal women suck
 

rickyb

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And not normal ones are major trouble.

I wonder how old you’ll be when you grow up?
normal people suck too.

now to properly answer your assertion: america used to make things so you could make alot of money without having alot of education. like 1 person providing middle class life style for the family. unions used to be 1/3 of all americans. and im guessing debts were alot lower in the 50s, 60s, 70s than they are now. housing prices are likely inflated; you had a housing bubble just 10 years ago. the biggest employer used to be GM. now its walmart, and the economy is either now or going to be mostly low paying service sector jobs. the govt doesnt fund programs like it used to, so in college for example theres roughly 1.5 trillion in debt or things are just broken like teh justice system, healthcare, infrastructure, etc. so people cant afford to move out.

im not saying people in their 20s are innocent either.
 

Operational needs

Virescit Vulnere Virtus
normal people suck too.

now to properly answer your assertion: america used to make things so you could make alot of money without having alot of education. like 1 person providing middle class life style for the family. unions used to be 1/3 of all americans. and im guessing debts were alot lower in the 50s, 60s, 70s than they are now. housing prices are likely inflated; you had a housing bubble just 10 years ago. the biggest employer used to be GM. now its walmart, and the economy is either now or going to be mostly low paying service sector jobs. the govt doesnt fund programs like it used to, so in college for example theres roughly 1.5 trillion in debt or things are just broken like teh justice system, healthcare, infrastructure, etc. so people cant afford to move out.

im not saying people in their 20s are innocent either.
More excuses. You totally ignored every point I made.
 

rickyb

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i watched that new mike moore movie again and part of it is about the flint lead water crisis which happened because of profits over people. short term profits for long term suffering. in the film the govt fudges the numbers which measures lead in the water and obama flies out to tell people to drink the water which is unsafe well after people have been poisoned. rick snyder declared an emergency in michigan and installed his cronies who bumped the democratically elected people. and moore also showed the US army simulated gun battles in the city of flint which caught alot of the residents off guard.

i viewed this all as a prelude to our climate catastrophe: the govt lies to us about how bad it is, democracy is ruined by false flag operation in the govt, people are sick and suffering, theres a police state, etc.
 

rickyb

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"s it mainly in alternative independent media where you do see this coverage of climate crisis as a crisis?

You get it in the alternative media, but it doesn’t reach enough of the general public.

And not just this crisis, but others as well. A comparable crisis is the threat of nuclear war. On January 24th, it would be a good idea to look at the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, that’s the day when they’re supposed to come out with the next setting of the doomsday clock.* It’s already two minutes to midnight; I don’t know what they’re going to do next time, maybe put it past midnight! It’s basically two things, nuclear war and global warming, both of which are increasingly dire. But there’s more. Take the threat of a pandemic. Industrial meat production is first of all inhumane, but secondly, it’s a major contributor to global warming; and it’s also destroying the effectiveness of antibiotics. They have wild overuse of antibiotics, and it’s creating mutant bacteria that are resistant to any antibiotics, showing up in hospitals that could lead to a huge pandemic, like the flu pandemic a century ago which killed tens of millions of people. People talk about a migrant crisis, what’s it going to be like when Bangladesh is flooded, hundreds of millions of people have to flee? South Asia is running out of water, already there are hundreds of millions of people that barely have water; with the glaciers melting and so on, they may lose their water supply.

What happens to the world then? It’s just going to be colossal problems. They’re not far off.

Noam Chomsky: 'In a couple of generations, organized human society may not survive.'


What would be the alternative for journalism? How should it operate differently in addressing climate change?

Every single journal should have a shrieking headline every day saying we are heading to total catastrophe. In a couple of generations, organized human society may not survive. That has to be drilled into people’s heads constantly. After all, there’s been nothing like this in all of human history. The current generation has to make a decision as to whether organized human society will survive another couple of generations, and it has to be done quickly, there’s not a lot of time. So, there’s no time for dillydallying and beating around the bush. And pulling out of the Paris negotiations should be regarded as one of the worst crimes in history."
 

oldngray

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Box Ox

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FYI, no normal woman wants a guy living at home with the parents.

yea but normal women suck

Women aren't just trying to be dicks to you. There's a biological basis in it. A woman can't just walk away from the consequences of a sexual encounter in which she's impregnated like a man can. So she'll generally want to be boning someone who has the means to provide in case it happens. It's nothing personal.
 
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