COD check must have blown out of truck

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
That's not the method.

If you didn't have a locked drop safe in your truck.... you carried them in your front pocket.



Yep.

The company has to issue an Article 10 letter.

The employee can grieve it.... and the company has to "prove" they were negligent before any

monetary settlement is reached.


"Driver Release" is at the drivers discretion.




The pot, calling the kettle black.

Same old story Dave.... You weren't management.

Just a truck driver.
DR’s at college housing was always a crap shoot. 1 paid claim in 10 years on that part of the route was commendable.

The OP is a slug who needs to grow up.

I was trained to put cash in left pants pocket—-keys In right—-but was never trained to put checks in shirt pocket.
 

downwithbrownminot

Active Member
Sorry guys I'm not here to fight, just wanted to express myself. Get advice if available. But now I feel I need to explain myself.
Ok for as the fishing comment I just came back from vacation at the lake, hense the back to the lake. Getting stuck in a blizzard. I was a "blizzard" the road was good the day before.
the 38 minute stop Never happened. It was 38 minutes between stops. It had been pouring cats and dogs going on 3 days. I delivered in the country, this is mostly dirt and little gravel. It was 9.5miles to the next stop. I could drive about 15mph without sliding all over in the muck..
Anyways kinda got off subject there but you made me sound like some kida of worthless person

You guys have your envelopes before end of day??? As far as what all gets typed in.... man I only do a couple a year. I don't remember all that until I'm doing it..
As far as calling her, this is what I thought I was supposed to do. If I'm supposed to let management handle it why did they tell me I needed to get ahold of her and get a replacement.. anywho there's the rest of the story.. its all I got

Oh i may or may have not called my manager a princess at one point.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
Sorry guys I'm not here to fight, just wanted to express myself. Get advice if available. But now I feel I need to explain myself.
Ok for as the fishing comment I just came back from vacation at the lake, hense the back to the lake. Getting stuck in a blizzard. I was a "blizzard" the road was good the day before.
the 38 minute stop Never happened. It was 38 minutes between stops. It had been pouring cats and dogs going on 3 days. I delivered in the country, this is mostly dirt and little gravel. It was 9.5miles to the next stop. I could drive about 15mph without sliding all over in the muck..
Anyways kinda got off subject there but you made me sound like some kida of worthless person

You guys have your envelopes before end of day??? As far as what all gets typed in.... man I only do a couple a year. I don't remember all that until I'm doing it..
As far as calling her, this is what I thought I was supposed to do. If I'm supposed to let management handle it why did they tell me I needed to get ahold of her and get a replacement.. anywho there's the rest of the story.. its all I got

Oh i may or may have not called my manager a princess at one point.
You are supposed to fill out, scan and turn in a COD envelope every day whether you receive any checks or not. That is part of your End of Day task list.

As for the “muck run”—-that is what EC is for. I would have called the customer to try to set up a “paved road meet point” or ask them to pickup at center. No sense wasting 38 minutes, not to mention getting stuck, in one stop.

I was active duty Air Force and we called Minot AFB “why not Minot”.
 
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DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
You are supposed to fill out, scan and turn in a COD envelope every day whether you receive any checks or not. That is part of your End of Day task list.

As for the “muck run”—-that is what EC is for. I would have called the customer to try to set up a “paved road meet point” or ask them to pickup at center. No sense wasting 38 minutes, not to mention getting stuck, in one stop.

I was active duty Air Force and we called Minot AFB “why not Minot”.

I was in Grand Forks AFB ..1973-1976...We had some of our guys jumping out of third story barracks during the Winter...they weren't prepared....

Every season in North Dakota is ugly...Most of the state's population, particularly the sunflower and potato farmers head south in the fall and do not come back till May...after the snow melt and the Red River flooding...

Then the skitters 🦟 come out...
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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I was in Grand Forks AFB ..1973-1976...We had some of our guys jumping out of third story barracks during the Winter...they weren't prepared....

Every season in North Dakota is ugly...Most of the state's population, particularly the sunflower and potato farmers head south in the fall and do not come back till May...after the snow melt and the Red River flooding...

Then the skitters 🦟 come out...
I was at PAFB (Plattsburgh NY) from 1/82-10/83. Put gas on airplanes.
 

Thebrownblob

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Wut? The COD turn in only requires you to match the number of checks in your hand with the number of checks in the DIAD. Drivers are only required to verify that the amount of the check matches the COD amount on the package at the time of delivery and that it is a certified check/money order if requested. I used the upper half of the old wooden clipboard, which fit in the space above the cup holders, to hold my COD envelope and call tags. I also clipped my iPhone to the cupholder.

The OP sounds like a problem child. Customers do not take the time to Google the UPS Corporate number to call in a corporate rude hourly if there is no merit to their complaint. He indicated that "she was looking for an argument" and it sounds as though he may have taken the bait. You stated that you "didn't mean to harass her" when you offered to stop by to "pick up the package". First of all, she paid for the package so you have no right to take it back and, second, it is on you to as the first link in the chain of custody for COD checks to ensure that it goes from their hand to your COD envelope to the collection point in your center. It sounds like she called the company and paid for the package with a credit card, for which she was charged a (3%?) convenience fee. UPS is not going to fire you for a rude hourly unless you went over the line with the customer. I received a rude hourly less than a week before I retired for walking across a small portion of someone's lawn---she was a busy body with nothing better to do; in fact, she called me "lazy"----we had a good laugh over that one.

Lost checks or claims for bad DR's do not come out of your check in a lump sum. The Company will take out as little as $25/week until the amount has been repaid in full. There was a SUNY Plattsburgh student playing college basketball wearing a pair of sneakers ($125) that I paid for as the result of a bad DR I had made in an off campus student housing building. From what I have read, the current $100 threshold is going to triple to $300 in the new contract, which will protect you guys from frivolous claims.

The rude hourly was not simply because you asked to pick up the package but was because of the manner in which you asked and the fact that it was the second call that you had made to the consignee in regard to the lost check. Hindsight is 20/20 but it may have been best to let your center management team take care of this for you. She was venting when she blamed you for the "second lost check".

You are given a COD envelope for a reason----to put checks in there. Checks do not go behind the blue contract book or in your backpack/wallet/shirt pocket.

burrhead asked how you were "going above and beyond" when you were incapable of doing one of the more basic parts of your job. Are you referring to the (harassing) phone calls? As he stated, there is way more to the story than you are telling us here and, unfortunately, those details would not paint you in the best light.

"Stealing time" with an unexplained 38 minute stop and "getting stuck in a blizzard" when I am certain that you were all told during the PCM not to take any (stupid) chances out on road that day are all indicators that you are a problem child.

"I would have loved to have stopped by in person." Yeah, probably a good thing that you didn't as you may have found yourself in the backseat of a patrol car.

"Now I wait for the call for my grievance hearing so it's back to the lake for me---lot's of fish to catch" tells me all that I need to know about your character.

You should use the time spent fishing to reflect on whether this is the right job for you. You'll get your job back---they may make you sit a home for awhile but you will be back. May I suggest that when you come back you make a concerted effort to do the job the way that you were trained and to treat people the way that you would like them to treat you. Picture yourself as a business owner and then ask yourself if you would like to have you delivering to yourself.

Good luck to you----you clearly have a lot of growing up to do.
This is like peering into the mind of an insane asylum resident. Wtf
 

Siveriano

Well-Known Member
No the same but.
I once to a check instead of a certified/moneyorder.
Customer didnt had any money so check bounce, UPS LP tried to intimidate me "You either get the money, or is coming out of your pay check", basically i told them " well giving check knowing that you have no funds to cover is a crime, so ill need ups to give me a receipt specifying what was being deducted form my check, and ill just hire a lawyer and call the news on this guy for giving out bad checks", next thing i know, UPS is holding all of his packages, eventually forcing him to pay.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
No the same but.
I once to a check instead of a certified/moneyorder.
Customer didnt had any money so check bounce, UPS LP tried to intimidate me "You either get the money, or is coming out of your pay check", basically i told them " well giving check knowing that you have no funds to cover is a crime, so ill need ups to give me a receipt specifying what was being deducted form my check, and ill just hire a lawyer and call the news on this guy for giving out bad checks", next thing i know, UPS is holding all of his packages, eventually forcing him to pay.
UPS can’t hold you liable for a bad check from a customer. I see the English lessons are progressing.
 
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Brown Down

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You are supposed to fill out, scan and turn in a COD envelope every day whether you receive any checks or not. That is part of your End of Day task list.

As for the “muck run”—-that is what EC is for. I would have called the customer to try to set up a “paved road meet point” or ask them to pickup at center. No sense wasting 38 minutes, not to mention getting stuck, in one stop.

I was active duty Air Force and we called Minot AFB “why not Minot”.
In my 20 years we never filled out a cod envelope nor scanned it if there were no COD's so you're lying there. If it happened before my 20 years its clearly irrelevent now so again, you're wrong. And EC becasue its 38 minutes of driving. Wow just wow.
 
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