Driving questions and contract.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by kingOFchester, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    I hope someone can help me with a few questions.

    I am currently a saturday air driver. I believe the exact title would air exception. I make 12.50hr.

    I plan on going full time, If economy comes around! Anyway, I understand that when I do get my chance at full time, that I will have a probation period. I think it is 60 in 90? Would that be working days? Also, does my air time count towards the 3 year progression?

    Also, can you point out exactly where in the contrat I can find this info?

    Thanks
     
  2. Paid-over-in-Maine

    Paid-over-in-Maine 15 more years of this!

    I'll help with the progression. Your time as air driver will not count. Look under WAGES in your contract.
     
  3. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Thanks, just as i thought. the reason I asked was becuase i found this post, while I was trying to research my question regarding the probation period.

    http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/new-user-questions-about-driving.85460/

    "To make the process faster drive
    Saturday air. And by the time you become a full time driver you dont have to wait a certain amout of years to hit top rate. And advantage is you can drive the big brown trucks. Good luck"

    It got my hopes up for a secong being that no one corrected the poster.
    Thanks again.
     
  4. Paid-over-in-Maine

    Paid-over-in-Maine 15 more years of this!

    By doing Sat. air, you will have a legg up when you do drive as the DIAD will not be a stumbling block for you. That way you can concentrate on the Methods better. Area knowledge will be the other big thing that will come with time, but again, being on the road for air, that may be easier for you than someone that hasen't.
     
  5. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member


    I also did peak driving. Knock on wood, have yet to have any late air's. Still trying to figure out the "make book" making seniority,
     
  6. City Driver

    City Driver New Member

    $12.50? thats crazy

    i always feel sorry for the little guys

    here at freight the dockworkers now start at $10.50 an hour

    when we were overnite they started at almost $14

    and i know the preloaders over there at ground make literally 1/3 of what the ft drivers make on the hour
     
  7. jimstud

    jimstud Banned

    it takes 30 days to make senority
     
  8. jimstud

    jimstud Banned

  9. jimstud

    jimstud Banned

    overnite was such a great place that is why they busted the union and had nothing but scab scumbags driving for them
     
  10. Mike57

    Mike57 Member

    I don't work for UPS yet. I'm hoping that I'll be lucky enough to . But here goes . KingOFchester. I think that alot of what will happen is what is in your local contract.
    People help here , But different areas have contracts that are different as the hiring and so on .
    Just passing thru here . Ex-DHL here waiting to get on with a GOOD company!!!
     
  11. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Thanks, and sorry about DHL
    I have the master and local contract book, but it isnt the most easiest read for this king.:knockedout:

    From what I just read sitting on the can, it appears to be 30 working days in a 90 day period.
     
  12. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom


    Mike, be sure to shave the beard, cut off the pony tail, and lose the walmart velcro vinyl shoes before you start your UPS career:peaceful:
     
  13. Paid-over-in-Maine

    Paid-over-in-Maine 15 more years of this!

    LMAO about the shoes!!!
     
  14. jimstud

    jimstud Banned

    it is 30 working days the company has do a ride to tell you if you made it or not, if you work beyond the 30 days without the ride you are automaticly on the list.
     
  15. Jack4343

    Jack4343 FT DR Specialist

    Where I am at in the Southern Region, if pays to become a cover driver first before you become full time. A cover driver makes 85% of FT driver pay so when you become full time and begin progression, you stay at your current level of income until progression catches up. I went full time in June of last year after being a cover driver for over 4 years. While I have not gotten any increases in my hourly rate (except contract raises) since going into progression, I did not have to start out at the much lower FT driver rate. Which is good because I would've had to take a cut in pay to get a promotion to full time status.
     
  16. buttere

    buttere New Member

    Here being an air driver does not count for anything other than the experience.
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.


    ...which will serve you well if and when you become a cover and then FT driver.
     
  18. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Reading the contract might be boring, but it is time well spent. For the reading impaired, there is a 'table of contents' that allows you to find pretty much what you are looking for.

    If you were looking for something obscure, it might be faster to ask on BC. Something like pay and progression, unless you have the reading level of a kindergartner, it is faster to look it up in the contract.

    TB