Indeed. If only us hourlies were half as infallible as you management types...So basically the good drivers get SCREWED over having to cover for their fine teamster brothers that couldnt keep a job flipping burgers. Poetic justice isn't it lmao
What have you seen people lose their jobs for? How to avoid being fired.
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Bagels
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I was told multiple times that the only way you could get fired as a part time sup is if you got caught lying, stealing, ora coworker. Now, these days that last reason is a grey area....so I'm assuming this guy was lying to the center manager about the missed truck....I honestly can't see a PT sup get fired for JUST one missed truck. Not cool, but not fire-worthy....
One of our PT sup was fired for leaving send agains on idle trucks (e.g. routes that weren't being built the next day). It was his third offense in about 18 months. He got his job back through arbitration.
I've also seen PT sup fired for:
-- Showing up to work drunk the day after St. Patty's Day (Preloader -- in other words, an hour or so after the bar closed). He got his job back through arbitration.
-- (On the local sort) Choosing to leave several dozen packages in the building, rather than calling for/building another load; most were two-day packages to Europe & Asia. He got his job back through arbitration, went full-time within a month after returning to work.
-- Choosing not to run a load because he'd blow his production numbers (Preload) -- then lying to his boss and saying the load was cancelled. He got his job back through arbitration.
-- Accusations of sexual harassment, three total over time. Two got their jobs back through arbitration, the third didn't try.
-- Horse playing with another PT sup that resulted in that sup getting hurt & going to the clinic. He struck a deal in which his termination would be considered a voluntary quit, with full recommendation, and he would receive his remaining time off cashed out.
-- not being managerial material, for whatever reason. He got his job back through arbitration, but at a different building.
and, more recently,
-- identifying himself as a UPS PT supervisor on Facebook, criticizing the job, then displaying inappropriate images (semi-naked, drunk, etc.) that "misrepresented" the brand. Not certain what he plans on doing...
So it seems that employees who don't deserve to keep their jobs, but do anyway, isn't just limited to union employees...
PiedmontSteward
RTW-4-Less
Are you in California? I live in an "at-will" state where anyone without a CBA can be fired just because the boss doesn't like their face. It's not as easy to fire PT sups as it would be at a different company because of UPS corporate policy, but there is no arbitration here for any employee without a contract.
Bagels
Family Leave Fridays!!!
"At will" as well but UPS management has some sort of arbitration process here. Not as common, but we've had FT supervisors/managers fired as well who've gotten their jobs back through the process, sometimes (usually) with a demotion.
Had one get fired for sheeting a NDA as not in away from the intended address , and saying the consignee gave him a letter allowing him to deliver air/ground together after commit time. Our lp guy spoke with consignee, who says they gave said driver no note.
We'll see if he gets rehired......he is in our center manager's crosshairs, has been fired within the last 6 months and has been a driver for about 8 years. He should definitely know better.
We'll see if he gets rehired......he is in our center manager's crosshairs, has been fired within the last 6 months and has been a driver for about 8 years. He should definitely know better.
Returntosender
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Seen employee comeback from workplace violence non management employee on non management employee.
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pretender
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That is very surprising--They usually have zero tolerance for that.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
Don't touch the board unless the vehicle is off.
Returntosender
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The company approached both parties, they said they will bury the hatchet, and got their jobs back.
LongTimeComing
Air Ops Pro
I can attest to this. Seen it happen before myself.
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serenity now
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just can't remember who
show up, keep up, shut up
i will rep them in anonymity
Returntosender
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I think it was poster who avatar is the AH1 Cobra gunship.
menotyou
bella amicizia
Another one who had it as his signature line for a while is an amber beast.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
They can't if their only proof is telematics.
The key here is to be aloof when questioned.
Don't confirm or deny the accusation, as they can only use telematics for discipline in cases of proven dishonesty.
Funny how this is such a sacred cow while they have no problem giving a new driver a map and sending them out in the blind.
menotyou
bella amicizia
That's what my on-car says.
Anonymous 10
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it never hurts to write up the telematics when these events keep showing up. Their system if flawed and they know it so keep writing it up. It go we you your own documentation.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
You're welcome.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
I prefer "the best defense is a good offense".
Anonymous 10
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Yea that guy will run for the hills and let you take all the flack. Men aren't what they used to be.
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