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bbsam

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Still seems like something law enforcement should have handled at the source. They knew who the shippers were, who the recipients were...and they go after the transport company?!
No but IMO, I think the explosion of warehouse type operations triggered the crackdown.
 

MAKAVELI

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Still seems like something law enforcement should have handled at the source. They knew who the shippers were, who the recipients were...and they go after the transport company?!
This is why.

The indictment filed in federal court in San Francisco alleges that FedEx Corp. conspired with two related online pharmacies for 10 years ending in 2010.

The Department of Justice announced the charges in Washington, D.C. It wants FedEx to forfeit $820 million it says the cargo company earned by assisting the illicit pharmacies.

The Memphis, Tenn., delivery company is accused of shipping powerful sleeping aid Ambien, anti-anxiety medications Valium and Xanax, and other drugs to customers who had no legitimate medical need and lacked valid prescriptions.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/fedex-charged-aiding-illegal-pharmacies-article-1.1872067
 

bbsam

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Staff member
This is why.

The indictment filed in federal court in San Francisco alleges that FedEx Corp. conspired with two related online pharmacies for 10 years ending in 2010.

The Department of Justice announced the charges in Washington, D.C. It wants FedEx to forfeit $820 million it says the cargo company earned by assisting the illicit pharmacies.

The Memphis, Tenn., delivery company is accused of shipping powerful sleeping aid Ambien, anti-anxiety medications Valium and Xanax, and other drugs to customers who had no legitimate medical need and lacked valid prescriptions.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/fedex-charged-aiding-illegal-pharmacies-article-1.1872067
And for 10 years the feds knew about and allowed the pharmacies to continue their practices. Move along nothing to see there?
 

MAKAVELI

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And for 10 years the feds knew about and allowed the pharmacies to continue their practices. Move along nothing to see there?
I would think you of all people would understand when it comes to drug cases, and a big fish like FedEx, it takes time to build a case.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...cted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online
The criminal case is an unprecedented escalation of a federal crackdown on organizations and individuals to combat prescription drug abuse, said Larry Cote, an attorney and ex-associate chief counsel at the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.
“Targeting a company that’s two, three steps removed from the actual doctor-patient, pharmacy-patient relationship is unprecedented,” said Cote, who advises companies in the drug supply chain on compliance matters.

Vacant Homes
The company knew it was delivering drugs to dealers and addicts, with couriers in Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia expressing concerns circulated to senior managers that FedEx trucks were stopped on the road by online pharmacy customers demanding packages of pills, according to the indictment. Some delivery addresses were parking lots or vacant homes, prosecutors said.
“This indictment highlights the importance of holding corporations that knowingly enable illegal activity responsible for their role in aiding criminal behavior,” U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag in San Francisco said in a statement.
The illegal deliveries began in 2000, Haag said, and FedEx continued to do business with one Internet pharmacy whose manager had been arrested for violating drug laws. She said the company also served a fulfillment pharmacy that supplied Internet pharmacies that were shut by law enforcement, with their owners and doctors convicted of illegally distributing drugs.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
I would think you of all people would understand when it comes to drug cases, and a big fish like FedEx, it takes time to build a case.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...cted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online
The criminal case is an unprecedented escalation of a federal crackdown on organizations and individuals to combat prescription drug abuse, said Larry Cote, an attorney and ex-associate chief counsel at the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.
“Targeting a company that’s two, three steps removed from the actual doctor-patient, pharmacy-patient relationship is unprecedented,” said Cote, who advises companies in the drug supply chain on compliance matters.

Vacant Homes
The company knew it was delivering drugs to dealers and addicts, with couriers in Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia expressing concerns circulated to senior managers that FedEx trucks were stopped on the road by online pharmacy customers demanding packages of pills, according to the indictment. Some delivery addresses were parking lots or vacant homes, prosecutors said.
“This indictment highlights the importance of holding corporations that knowingly enable illegal activity responsible for their role in aiding criminal behavior,” U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag in San Francisco said in a statement.
The illegal deliveries began in 2000, Haag said, and FedEx continued to do business with one Internet pharmacy whose manager had been arrested for violating drug laws. She said the company also served a fulfillment pharmacy that supplied Internet pharmacies that were shut by law enforcement, with their owners and doctors convicted of illegally distributing drugs.
FedEx isn't the "big fish". The pharmacies are.
 

MAKAVELI

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interesting. Doubt it goes far. Both sides will look for a plea if it starts getting messy.
Maybe so , but FedEx friend..ed up big time by completely denying the charges and not paying the fine like UPS. They have now opened a serious can of worms.
 

M I Indy

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Still seems like something law enforcement should have handled at the source. They knew who the shippers were, who the recipients were...and they go after the transport company?!

How does law enforcement get to the source in most illegal drug cases? They start with the street level drug couriers and work their way up. Shippers and recipients are rogue and on the move all the time, but an AIRLINE has only some many places to hide. Is this indictment for all divisions? If so, then doesn't that throw a monkey wrench into the IC/ISP model? If both Express and Ground/HD are drug couriers, then it shows they both do the same job. Or will Fed Ex claim Express drops their dope out of planes, while Ground drives up to your door, lol. Fred is boxing himself in, eventually the lies overlap each other, as most criminal/drug dealer types will tell you. Remember, crime doesn't pay, not even for Fred this time.
 

hypo hanna

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Still seems like something law enforcement should have handled at the source. They knew who the shippers were, who the recipients were...and they go after the transport company?!
Don't forget, for law enforcement and our politicians, the drug war is a "for profit" enterprise. Street level dealers and users and the Rx warehouse operations would require more labor and won't bring in the kind of money a big fish like UPS and fedex would. Plus those Rx shippers are critical to big Pharma's pipeline. The politicians aren't going to upset that sugar daddy.
 

Goldilocks

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BB this has been a problem for a long time and every employee knows it. Some use to laugh and say we are known for transporting drugs and porn. A big :censored2: went down the belt, guess the box busted, lol some one picked it up and turned it on and down it went. I use to pickup in thr late 80's in a very bad area, nothing but dealers and hookers. Very shady people used us.
 

oldngray

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BB this has been a problem for a long time and every employee knows it. Some use to laugh and say we are known for transporting drugs and porn. A big :censored2: went down the belt, guess the box busted, lol some one picked it up and turned it on and down it went. I use to pickup in thr late 80's in a very bad area, nothing but dealers and hookers. Very shady people used us.

Most delivery people are pretty sure what is inside most packages but they are supposed to just be dumb truck drivers and package handlers so law enforcement is not their responsibility.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Most delivery people are pretty sure what is inside most packages but they are supposed to just be dumb truck drivers and package handlers so law enforcement is not their responsibility.

I have personally turned down shipments of prohibited items, usually alcohol.


Resident know-it-all.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
So what happens if Fedex finally settles? Will we be expected to check prescriptions? UPS settled. Did your procedures change or is this the government shaking down a couple companies because they can?

I think the governments case is a bit problematic if they wouldn't give the company their list of suspect pharmacies.
 

MAKAVELI

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So what happens if Fedex finally settles? Will we be expected to check prescriptions? UPS settled. Did your procedures change or is this the government shaking down a couple companies because they can?

I think the governments case is a bit problematic if they wouldn't give the company their list of suspect pharmacies.
UPS, in its March 2013 agreement, acknowledged doing business with online pharmacies even after it learned they were illegally distributing controlled substances without requiring valid prescriptions.
Compliance Program
UPS, based in Atlanta, also agreed to establish a compliance program designed to ensure such customers won’t be able to use its services to illegally distribute drugs.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...cted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online
 

MAKAVELI

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Why do you think FedEx is so adamant about how they are not responsible for what goes through their system? It's because they KNOW illegal shipments are a HUGE part of their volume and don't want to lose that volume.
 
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