They'd have to bribe me with more than a 5k signing bonus to get me to go along with that crap. You wave 10 Grand in front of my face, well that's a horse of a different color
2 tier pay system, easy 100 or not?
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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$1K would not be nearly enough---$10K would be too much---$5K would be just right.
How 'bout if you stand up for your future brothers and sisters and vote "no". You could always cut into the companies pension contributions instead.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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This is all your fault. If you would pay your employees a liveable wage we wouldn't be having this discussion.
I will take that as an admission that you know I am right and $5000 is the amount it requires to set aside your deeply held convictions.This is all your fault. If you would pay your employees a liveable wage we wouldn't be having this discussion.
beentheredonethat
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I always find it amazing that if you listen to this board, the majority of people voted down the contract we currently have.
People like to talk tough, but obviously most lose that toughness when they vote.
OVERBOARD
Don't believe everything you think
Not Local 59 one of the few Local's to vote it down.
OVERBOARD
Don't believe everything you think
You can look it up! It is out there somewhere, how every Local voted
I'd like to see that too.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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As I recall ours voted overwhelmingly "yes".
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
anonymous; said:
I know people that work in parts of Illinois that have a tiered pay system the new drivers top at out $25 now.
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Well in the Bubble of Goodness, why not?
The part timers were sold out in 1982, this is not the first time a little cash was waved around.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Why would 5k buy you out upstate your selling out every future driver and putting a huge target on the back of all the current ones. 100k couldn't get me to vote on a two tiered pay scale. Why because it's still even close to that amount of wages I'd lose if fired. Do you realize that $25 is about like you taking a 15k pay cut. I hope if it gets voted every new driver that starts at the lower wage beats the crap out of an old driver that sold him out and takes that signing bonus to help recoup what he lost.
HEFFERNAN
Huge Member
UPS has hired the bare minimum of drivers for the simple fact that they expect the 2 tier pay system to be in effect next year.
We will soon hear the demand from both sides ! We are about a year away and UPS does not want the threat of a strike to scare the big shippers away !
We will soon hear the demand from both sides ! We are about a year away and UPS does not want the threat of a strike to scare the big shippers away !
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Truth be told I wouldn't need a signing bonus. I am realistic enough to know that if we hope to remain competitive with Ground we need to do something about our price point. This is not about selling out anyone--it is about ensuring our economic future.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I will agree a lot of this is Grounds fault if they paid their drivers more than the manager at quickemart this wouldn't be an issue. Ever notice how most of their drivers either look like 20 something's that just got out of jail or retired people that need some type of supplemental income.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
Thanks for volunteering to take a 5 year wage freeze for the good of your future brothers.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You have to admit that from a purely business viewpoint the Ground model makes a lot of sense.
