Just keep promises made. Or don't make them.
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falcon back
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Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about. ALL permanent part time employees at Express have the same benefits as full time employees, minus short and long term disability. I am part time, I would know. There are a few casual employees that are being used as couriers but they are very few in numbers. They can only work a few hrs per week. You continue to show your ignorance with nearly every post you make about Express. No part timers at my station gets the minimum unless they request as few hrs as possible. Volume has exploded and hrs are plentiful. Maybe you should take your paranoid attitude and stick to a subject you know. Billiards, darts, air hockey or kiddie porn are most likely your favorite past times.
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falcon back
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Who could predict the economic downturn of 2008? Who could predict the Intl. economy would tank in 2019? Who could predict a virus would shut down the world and it's economy like nothing the world has seen in decades? Despite this, the company reported much better financials than Wall Street anticipated a few weeks back and the stock has rebounded from about $90 to $166. Even the pilots endured the results of the bad economy, many being furloughed and others had their hrs cut. The volume increase of late ended that practice and now there are more flights than pilots. Policies and programs the company has announced over the years were made with the economic numbers that were in place at that time. Nobody has a crystal ball that can predict the future. A company can't spend itself broke when economic conditions don't permit the continuation of certain programs. Just ask Sears, K-Mart, JC Penny, Pier 1, etc etc.
As I said, keep your promises or don't make them. And don't take away from your employees to build a new division. Everything was about the money, always has been. We were sacrificed so that the rich got richer. And don't kid yourself, they were planning ending the traditional pension long before 2008 hit. I just feel sorry for the folks who are going to lose the portable pension plan. It's not the best plan but better than nothing. Have to get a government job to get a pension these days.
falcon back
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6% match or whatever the new plan is can be very lucrative. People complain about the Portable and when the company suggests a plan that just might be better, you complain about the loss of the Portable. I believe the Traditional ended before 2008, but I could be wrong. I was long gone from it by then. You mention a government job is needed to have a pension. That is proof that if only the government can provide a pension, economic conditions has made it necessary for most companies to end their programs.
Cactus
Just telling it like it is
Shut up Oldfart.
floridays
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Kinda how men were judged in my dad's day.
floridays
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Only because it's fashionable today I will use this.
Southern plantation owners said the same thing.
The traditional ended May 31, 2008. The new plan can be lucrative if the company keeps it's word with pay raises and people can get OT. But the portable pension is a sure thing and you still have a 401k with a match. As for ending pensions, if everyone is just in a 401k then it's that much more that funds can use to buy stock, driving up share prices so exec's can get rich. Why do you think they want everyone to participate and offer a match as an incentive? Companies don't want to give employees sure things, they want them to invest as much as possible in 401k's.
floridays
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For starters the defined benefit plan was terminated before 2008. Secondly do you have any idea how many hours pilots work a year, how they bid routes and how they are paid? Since you don't ask @59 Dano , he can ask someone.
The unfunded or ..... oops it just slipped up on us "certain programs" always seem to affect the wage earners, and generally the bottom dwellers. It's almost like they aren't considered in the forward business projections. Meaning an after thought. If Express goes the way of Sears, K-Mart, JC Penny Pier 1, etc etc, I'll expect some perp walks of officers at most and civil judgments at the least. Exactly who are you trying to scare with this talk?
floridays
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I appreciate your fire Tex, not for me but the bodies that are left. You're a good man.
floridays
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It smells like him.
floridays
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It takes years to wrap up a pension plan by government regulation. Essentially Fedex ended the pension plan long before anyone was given notice.
Kinda like when your wife or girlfriend leaves, that decision was made long before you were given notice. With a woman it is tying up loose ends, with a Corporation it is meeting regulatory hurdles.
Either way you're in the dark until the hammer drops.
And they sent us nice glossy brochures every year detailing what we would get if we put in the time. Until they announced in January 2007 that they would be terminating the plan at the end of the fiscal year in 2008.
floridays
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I've said it before, the smartest segment of the workforce decided they needed a contract.
Contracts are a great thing, not just in employment. Without contracts civil society is a crap
shoot. I'm big on contracts.
Without a union willing to step up pretty hard to get couriers together to get a contract. Like herding cats.
floridays
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Understood, class and craft, the push would have to be made at the World Hub, Memphis.
It would have to be up to employees to instigate, teamsters would trip over themselves for the shot to represent. If an action like this happened, couriers would fall in line. The hub is the heart, they (workers) can absorb the flack. Still like herding cats, but they have no idea how much pop is in their bat if they choose to swing it.
What do you think @59 Dano you're the smart guy.
Back to you Tex, have you ever seen a ballplayer hit the ball in the gap and come up lame taking his swing before touching first base?
The management, team Fedex wants you to hit the bag and motor to second, heading for third, standing up or sliding.
Excuse me, I pulled my hammy before I touched first, it just ain't gonna happen.
That is exactly how Fedex needs to be dealt with.
falcon back
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If contracts are so great, why were they ONLY workforce in the company with a contract the 1st segment of the company to get furloughed and others have their hrs cut, I don't believe any couriers suffered those actions. Pilots are back to full force now, but for awhile, their situation wasn't so secure.
Go over take a look for yourself and draw your own conclusions. You're obviously a good reader and one of the first conditions spelled out is NO BENEFITS.
In fact as a courtesy to a friend of mine at Express who had arranged for an interview I interviewed for one of those positions. It was exactly as advertised. 17.5 hours and zero benefits. I didn't want the job because due to the limited hours it wasn't going to pay enough overall to justify being burdened with the damn thing but as I said I simply through the motions as a token of appreciation to my express friend.
So welcome to the new Fedex Express pal and it's own version of a "happy meal".
On that date Barrack Obama inherited the Bush Recession at which time saving critical segments of the economy and just getting people back to work in any form of it was the top priority.
Now on 1-20-21 if Joe Biden wins he will inherit the Trump Plague and dealing with that will be job one but it won't be long until the term "essential worker" will be given a legal definition and standing .......and might just be a game changer for you contractors. So once it starts gaining traction if I were you I would find out where the fire escape is and never be too far from it.
