What'dyabringmetoday???
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Well, you hated the union, wanted to be a supervisor, so I think you know the answer. (You certainly enjoyed the benefits of the contract).
70 hours
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What'dyabringmetoday???
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Why not? You spent thirty years with and idiot behind the wheel. Lol.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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And I'm sure he would be shaking in his shoes. Lol.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Air Recovery
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At my center they are forcing us drivers who are at our 60 in and paying us driver pay to be helpers....but the jokes on them we have very very few drivers left with hours
They aren't allowed to do that.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Uh....yes, they can.
Well I'll give you a break since you are retired and not working under this contract
Article 26 clearly states that any RPCD that has less than 8 hours available cannot be forced to work a 6th punch
Thanks for playing
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...as a driver.....he/she can work up to an additional 10 hours as a helper...
Hope this helps you.
Hope this helps you.
Whither
Scofflaw
I've read Art 26.5 several times the last week. As I was discussing elsewhere in a thread with @542thruNthru, it seems like the language primarily addresses situations where the 70 hr rule applies. I would love to believe it does, but I'm not sure that the language prevents getting forced into a non-driving 6th punch even if a driver has less than 8 hours available. Do you have the local's backing on this interpretation? And success in using it? I will call my BA tomorrow about this sentence, which seems to be the key: "No regular package car driver red circled under Article 22.4(b) will be forced to work on a day off and exceed sixty (60) hours unless he has a full eight (8) hours of duty available."
DumbTruckDriver
Allergic to cardboard.
“Can work” is not the same as “is forced to work.”
Already had this discussion with the center manager on Friday when he wanted to force somebody in that didn't have enough hours available.
Guess what. That driver didn't have to work on Saturday
Whither
Scofflaw
You've mentioned this before, please cite the contractual backing for it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Fair enough.
...can be forced to work up to an additional 10 hours as a helper...
...can be forced to work up to an additional 10 hours as a helper...
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Easy cowboy that fine would make a lot of Nissan payments
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcsa.dot.gov/files/docs/Drivers_Guide_to_HOS_2016.pdf
Scroll down to pages 5 and 6-----14 and 11 hour driving windows/limits.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Whither
Scofflaw
So I get this is a summary, but what I gather is only the first 2 hours spent as a helper don't count against DOT hours. So, for example: I logged ~55 hours driving last week. Which means @IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U's interpretation of Art 26.5 would be correct. We were not approved for 70, I had less than 8 hours available for Sat, and per Art 26.5 I could not be forced to work a 6th punch.
