What'dyabringmetoday???
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Well, you hated the union, wanted to be a supervisor, so I think you know the answer. (You certainly enjoyed the benefits of the contract).Which one am I?
Well, you hated the union, wanted to be a supervisor, so I think you know the answer. (You certainly enjoyed the benefits of the contract).Which one am I?
Why not? You spent thirty years with and idiot behind the wheel. Lol.Don't care. No way I am sitting in the jump seat with an idiot behind the wheel.
And I'm sure he would be shaking in his shoes. Lol.The very first time he did something stupid I would have told him to pull over and switch seats. I don't care if I was coded as a helper or driver-----no way I am getting hurt or killed by some maroon.
Well, you hated the union, wanted to be a supervisor, so I think you know the answer. (You certainly enjoyed the benefits of the contract).
No 6th punch for me
They aren't allowed to do that.At my center they are forcing us drivers who are at our 60 in and paying us driver pay to be helpers....but the jokes on them we have very very few drivers left with hours
They aren't allowed to do that.
Well I'll give you a break since you are retired and not working under this contractUh....yes, they can.
Article 26 clearly states that any RPCD that has less than 8 hours available cannot be forced to work a 6th punch
“Can work” is not the same as “is forced to work.”...as a driver.....he/she can work up to an additional 10 hours as a helper...
Hope this helps you.
Already had this discussion with the center manager on Friday when he wanted to force somebody in that didn't have enough hours available.I've read Art 26.5 several times the last week. As I was discussing elsewhere in a thread with @542thruNthru, it seems like the language primarily addresses situations where the 70 hr rule applies. I would love to believe it does, but I'm not sure that the language prevents getting forced into a non-driving 6th punch even if a driver has less than 8 hours available. Do you have the local's backing on this interpretation? And success in using it? I will call my BA tomorrow about this sentence, which seems to be the key: "No regular package car driver red circled under Article 22.4(b) will be forced to work on a day off and exceed sixty (60) hours unless he has a full eight (8) hours of duty available."
...as a driver.....he/she can work up to an additional 10 hours as a helper...
Hope this helps you.
The very first time he did something stupid I would have told him to pull over and switch seats. I don't care if I was coded as a helper or driver-----no way I am getting hurt or killed by some maroon.
You've mentioned this before, please cite the contractual backing for it.
That's DOT rules. Not the rules of this contracthttps://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcsa.dot.gov/files/docs/Drivers_Guide_to_HOS_2016.pdf
Scroll down to pages 5 and 6-----14 and 11 hour driving windows/limits.
That mentality weakens your credibility. Got to follow the rules. Simply exiting the package car keeps you out of harms way.
You've mentioned this before, please cite the contractual backing for it.
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcsa.dot.gov/files/docs/Drivers_Guide_to_HOS_2016.pdf
Scroll down to pages 5 and 6-----14 and 11 hour driving windows/limits.