9.5 list, rules and penalty assistance

[hbh]

I am on the 9.5 list and violated 3 times. As a low seniority driver is there any circumstance that would prevent me from having a payable grievance?

 

[toonertoo]

Not filing for the pay?

 

[Nothing by 1030 anymore]

I am on the 9.5 list and violated 3 times. As a low seniority driver is there any circumstance that would prevent me from having a payable grievance?

nope.

 

[Brownslave688]

I am on the 9.5 list and violated 3 times. As a low seniority driver is there any circumstance that would prevent me from having a payable grievance?

Did you inform them you would be over?

 

[Wally]

You would think the company would ask who wants more overtime? This way, they could lighten up some of these loads.

 

[LeaveIt2Griever]

File that ASAP. Management will get butt hurt and might be riding your ass for a while, be smart and don't give them any reasons to with you.

 

[hbh]

Did you inform them you would be over?

Yes, several times. Our evening part time sup was given list that was incorrect. Thinking I only had 1 strike he let it ride.

 

[hbh]

Not filing for the pay?

I am being told that I don't have a grievance because of something to do with higher seniority drivers calling in and tcd's doing routes I I may have wanted to do. Very ambiguous and not helping me understand the 9.5 list and application of the protections i thought it should be affording me.

 

[LeaveIt2Griever]

Talk to Stuart, he should be able to clear up any confusion.

 

[Turdferguson]

I am being told that I don't have a grievance because of something to do with higher seniority drivers calling in and tcd's doing routes I I may have wanted to do

Who told you this?
If people are calling in that should have no effect on you having excessive work placed on you.
As they like to say "it's their company and we can't tell them how to run their business " proper staffing to cover these call ins is their problem. I must have missed that part of the contract language where that was an excuse for a 9.5 violation when I was reading the contract

 

[hbh]

Steward and BA are confusing me. Seems like it should be cut and dry. Go over 9.5hrs on 3 days during the week and you grieve for penalty for all hours over 9.5.

 

[hbh]

Who told you this?
If people are calling in that should have no effect on you having excessive work placed on you.
As they like to say "it's their company and we can't tell them how to run their business " proper staffing to cover these call ins is their problem. I must have missed that part of the contract language where that was an excuse for a 9.5 violation when I was reading the contract

That's what my position is. I do NOT have a route and am lowest seniority driver in building but got on 9.5 list because I was on a single route for a week and went over all 5 days. As floater their argument would be "we don't know where you'll be so..."

 

[Brownslave688]

I am being told that I don't have a grievance because of something to do with higher seniority drivers calling in and tcd's doing routes I I may have wanted to do. Very ambiguous and not helping me understand the 9.5 list and application of the protections i thought it should be affording me.

They are full of .

 

[Faceplanted]

That's what my position is. I do NOT have a route and am lowest seniority driver in building but got on 9.5 list because I was on a single route for a week and went over all 5 days. As floater their argument would be "we don't know where you'll be so..."

File!!! I had to educate a couple stewards on the actual language concerning pre 4 year drivers. When I was a swinger they tried pulling that "we don't know where you'll be" bs with me. I won and got paid

 

[hbh]

File!!! I had to educate a couple stewards on the actual language concerning pre 4 year drivers. When I was a swinger they tried pulling that "we don't know where you'll be" bs with me. I won and got paid

My steward won't file without my BA's approval.

 

[Brownslave688]

My steward won't file without my BA's approval.

He has to file if you want to file. He can advise against it but not refuse. Sounds like the NLRB would like to hear about your representatives

 

[Turdferguson]

My steward won't file without my BA's approval.

From the Teamster Web site.
How should I handle complaints about my steward, business agent or local?
Most stewards, business agents and local officers work very hard to provide Teamster members with the best representation possible. But sometimes problems do occur. The best way to resolve complaints is to start as close to the problem as possible. For example, if you have a complaint about your steward, your first call should be to your business agent; if you have a problem with your business agent, you should talk to your local's principal officer.

Business agents generally cover several work sites within the same industry, so he or she will be most aware of what's going on in your workplace and will be familiar with your steward and the issues the steward is facing on a day-to-day basis. The source of your complaint may actually be management. If the business agent is unable to address your concerns, the next call should be to your local. All Teamster locals are autonomous and procedures for dealing with member issues may vary. Some locals may have a staff member assigned to resolving member problems. If that is not the case, ask to speak with your principal officer. You may want to make an appointment or set up a time when you are both free to talk about your complaint. If your local is unable to resolve the matter, you can call the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Legal Department, (202) 624-6945. Only contact the Legal Department if you have exhausted all local options..

Ask for a grievance form and fill it out. If they won't do something about work your way up the food chain

 

[hellfire]

I am being told that I don't have a grievance because of something to do with higher seniority drivers calling in and tcd's doing routes I I may have wanted to do. Very ambiguous and not helping me understand the 9.5 list and application of the protections i thought it should be affording me.

Welcome to the teamster union ,, a lot of big talk binge posters will tell you how to correct this And How ..... regardless the 9.5 languages in our contracts are a complete joke. The company has the union in a chokehold and it's gonna get a lot worse

 

[hellfire]

From the Teamster Web site.
How should I handle complaints about my steward, business agent or local?
Most stewards, business agents and local officers work very hard to provide Teamster members with the best representation possible. But sometimes problems do occur. The best way to resolve complaints is to start as close to the problem as possible. For example, if you have a complaint about your steward, your first call should be to your business agent; if you have a problem with your business agent, you should talk to your local's principal officer.

Business agents generally cover several work sites within the same industry, so he or she will be most aware of what's going on in your workplace and will be familiar with your steward and the issues the steward is facing on a day-to-day basis. The source of your complaint may actually be management. If the business agent is unable to address your concerns, the next call should be to your local. All Teamster locals are autonomous and procedures for dealing with member issues may vary. Some locals may have a staff member assigned to resolving member problems. If that is not the case, ask to speak with your principal officer. You may want to make an appointment or set up a time when you are both free to talk about your complaint. If your local is unable to resolve the matter, you can call the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Legal Department, (202) 624-6945. Only contact the Legal Department if you have exhausted all local options..

Ask for a grievance form and fill it out. If they won't do something about work your way up the food chain

Yeah.. it's a changin master. Be glad your not in pc

 

[Turdferguson]

Yeah.. it's a changin master. Be glad your not in pc

I saw the writing on the wall with the last contract, couldn't get out quick enough