Automation, the future and the American worker (ON TOPIC)

Conk

New Member
The truth is you're probably not industry 4.0 ready but we'll find a fake job for you while we upgrade. As stated 50 years ago by someone famous I forget, only 20% of the population actually needs to 'work' as in for-income or nowadays; is capable of productivity. 80% of the population is useless for making profits. We've been inventing busy-work jobs since 50 years ago, but it's no longer working.

There is of course, an endless amount of work to be done. The entire problem is employing people to do it effectively. Children need to be raised, need better parenting (hint, hint). Litter needs to be cleaned up. There's plenty of work to do that simply isn't profitable or doesn't generate money at all. Socialism was the first answer to this, unfortunately, socialism was hijacked by people of a certain group such as Marx and Trotsky to serve their own political ideals and has basically been that way ever since. Socialism was perfected and used long ago, just nobody pasted an -ism on it and used it for political mischief.

Anyway, regarding automation -- you lost that battle a long time ago. Your job is artificially preserved. It's designed to be inefficient. This is the basis of a basic income; give everyone $2000/mo so they can survive, encourage them to volunteer and etc, and let the capable 20% work the 'jobs' or actually; something productive they already wanted to do for free... but they have to pay the bills, support the family, etc. The 80% doesn't understand this but there are people who love to work and work well, not even for money, simply money is necessary. Yet the current system encourages people to lie and cheat into a position they hate for the money, while the best candidate is shunned as they didn't major in bull:censored2:ting.
 

Conk

New Member
And if the moderator actually approves my comments; I'd like to add something intended but not said...

Everyone has something of equal value to offer. Everyone 'works'. The problem is 80% of the work needing to be done cannot be monetized. For example, we need our children to be raised well. Fed well. We need nutritionists educating mothers on how dietary cholesterol is healthy and they should be eating eggs. Nevermind mothers, everyone, we have a billion people avoid cholesterol in their diet when their body needs it and it has no effect on blood cholesterol. It's ridiculously wrong. There's an endless amount of work to be done, the problem is; there's no money in it.
 

The Slowest Preloader

It was an accident.
And if the moderator actually approves my comments; I'd like to add something intended but not said...

Everyone has something of equal value to offer. Everyone 'works'. The problem is 80% of the work needing to be done cannot be monetized. For example, we need our children to be raised well. Fed well. We need nutritionists educating mothers on how dietary cholesterol is healthy and they should be eating eggs. Nevermind mothers, everyone, we have a billion people avoid cholesterol in their diet when their body needs it and it has no effect on blood cholesterol. It's ridiculously wrong. There's an endless amount of work to be done, the problem is; there's no money in it.

Umm
 

The Driver

I drive.
The truth is you're probably not industry 4.0 ready but we'll find a fake job for you while we upgrade. As stated 50 years ago by someone famous I forget, only 20% of the population actually needs to 'work' as in for-income or nowadays; is capable of productivity. 80% of the population is useless for making profits. We've been inventing busy-work jobs since 50 years ago, but it's no longer working.

There is of course, an endless amount of work to be done. The entire problem is employing people to do it effectively. Children need to be raised, need better parenting (hint, hint). Litter needs to be cleaned up. There's plenty of work to do that simply isn't profitable or doesn't generate money at all. Socialism was the first answer to this, unfortunately, socialism was hijacked by people of a certain group such as Marx and Trotsky to serve their own political ideals and has basically been that way ever since. Socialism was perfected and used long ago, just nobody pasted an -ism on it and used it for political mischief.

Anyway, regarding automation -- you lost that battle a long time ago. Your job is artificially preserved. It's designed to be inefficient. This is the basis of a basic income; give everyone $2000/mo so they can survive, encourage them to volunteer and etc, and let the capable 20% work the 'jobs' or actually; something productive they already wanted to do for free... but they have to pay the bills, support the family, etc. The 80% doesn't understand this but there are people who love to work and work well, not even for money, simply money is necessary. Yet the current system encourages people to lie and cheat into a position they hate for the money, while the best candidate is shunned as they didn't major in bull:censored2:ting.

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Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
automation is good. but then we have to figure out how to give ppl a life of diginity after the fact. capitalism usually isnt going to give you dignity anyways.
You shut down and the market found a way around.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
I know this has been posted ad nauseum here and elsewhere, but I think this is a topic that warrants serious discussion. The perpetual cry of "we will be replaced by machines and automated package sorters holy bleep" seems to rouse two main types of responses:

1. Yeah, we're all screwed and it is going to happen sooner than you think, so I'm damn happy I have put in my ___ years and will be getting out soon good luck youngins. -OR-

2. The technology may be here someday soon, but the acceptance, adoption and regulation on a fullscale basis will make it harder to implement. There would probably be widespread paycuts before job losses.

I tend to fall in the second camp. I'm 33, no kids, a hot girlfriend, haven't even started driving. There are two things I am doing to prepare for the future: I am living like 50k a year is the most I will ever make (in case there are paycuts), and if I make more that's great, I'll sock all excess cash into retirement. I am also additionally taking computer science courses at night and online, maybe one a semester, with a focus on robotics (C language, low-level stuff). Adapt or die, and all that fun stuff.

So maybe this is all for naught. Perhaps none of this will become a factor in my career. The fact is, I feel there will always be a human element involved in Package car driving. Feeders, well I don't know enough about em to say. So what are your opinions? What are you doing (if anything) to prepare in case the future brings widespread changes?
You’re 33 and still part time
You live in moms basement or does hot girlfriend support you
 

meritocracy

Well-Known Member
Thread created in 2018. Are the robots here yet? Lol. Seriously though, companies are too greedy to invest in developing and buying expensive and complex equipment and workers are too cheap to justify it in the first place.
 
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