Bernie Sanders and the establishment DNC

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
We all saw what happened when Trump loosened the noose.
Lowest unemployment ever, stock Market booming ... could have happened under Obama
if he was not so anti-capitalist (Quasi-Socialist) and over-regulating.
Regulations is a form of Socialism ... think about it.

Yeah ... we've been through this before.
I guess you didn't understand the first time.

The S&P 500 was at 1913 when the 2008 bust started and had climbed to 2268 before Trump was elected.

That's an 18.5 % increase after $10 trillion in stimulus of US debt instigated by Bush Jr and Obama ...
... not the 176% increase your lying with numbers chart presents.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
MSNBC doesn’t employ centrists. They’re just realistic about diminished election odds from the Presidency and Congress down to the state and local levels if a Democratic Socialist is at the top of the ticket.
they are right of center if anything. these elites are clueless
 
M

MenInBrown

Guest
Let me preface this by saying I'm an independent and did not vote for either Trump or Clinton in the previous election. With that said....

Can any Democrats on this site please explain to me why the establishment Democratic party along with its allies at CNN, MSNBC, NBC and ABC are trying so hard to destroy the campaign of the one candidate who, at this moment, poses the greatest challenge for Trump to defeat?

Bernie Sanders has amassed a huge movement of middle-class workers, socialist-indoctrinated Gen Z'ers and millennials, African-Americans, Latinos and women who have rallied behind his message. Meanwhile, the DNC is a fractured party that has had no real leadership since Obama left office and has spent the last 4 years on a boondoggled Russia investigation and a useless impeachment that did nothing but make Trump's public approval ratings the highest after this acquittal.

They have thrown their support behind old white multi-millionaire status-quo politicians who spend more time catering to transgender bathroom rights and padding their stock portfolio than the plight of the American worker. Their lead candidate doesn't even know what state he's campaigning in half the time while Speaker Pelosi looks like she's slowly losing control of her mental faculties.

Democratic "leadership" right now consists of tearing up State of the Union speeches, wasting taxpayer dollars on a pointless impeachment and conducting debates that have the biggest lineup of non-candidates in American history.

The entire identity of the party right now is that of destroying Trump yet they try to derail the one candidate who could give them a fighting chance. And don't even get me started on Tulsi Gabbard. I guess she made too much sense for the mainstream Democrats to support...

none of this matters. No one will beat trump.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Superdelegates won't support Bernie?

shocked.jpg
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Guess it depends on how many delegates he gets.

If he clinches it, he clinches it.

If not, uncharted territory.

If he gets the most delegates but still not a lock, and they take the nomination away from him, not a great look.

A lot more will be clear after super Tuesday. Bernie should add to his lead but looking like his support is weakening. I don't see him getting enough to clinch before the convention.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Guess it depends on how many delegates he gets.

If he clinches it, he clinches it.

If not, uncharted territory.

If he gets the most delegates but still not a lock, and they take the nomination away from him, not a great look.
Depends how it goes. If Biden wins say the last ten contests and is close in delegates it’s easier to spin him as the will of the electorate.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Depends how it goes. If Biden wins say the last ten contests and is close in delegates it’s easier to spin him as the will of the electorate.

Biden was the preferred candidate but his constant memory lapses are killing his chances. The DNC can't quite discard him yet or pick his replacement. I think they might support Warren eventually but she is almost a Bernie lite.
 

Up In Smoke

Well-Known Member
Yeah ... we've been through this before.
I guess you didn't understand the first time.

The S&P 500 was at 1913 when the 2008 bust started and had climbed to 2268 before Trump was elected.

That's an 18.5 % increase after $10 trillion in stimulus of US debt instigated by Bush Jr and Obama ...
... not the 176% increase your lying with numbers chart presents.
The S&P was at 900ish in March of 2009 and 25000ish in March of 2017 a 278% increase during this time. Significant because it coincides with the next years budget numbers.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
The S&P was at 900ish in March of 2009 and 25000ish in March of 2017 a 278% increase during this time. Significant because it coincides with the next years budget numbers.
If you didn't make a ton of money in the market during the Obama years you have no business managing your own money or anyone else's.
 
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