Biden and the Radical Left

rickyb

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True and Donald Trump was fighting that as best he could, against republicans and democrats.
i doubt that and i cant recall. these guys have more in common than sets them apart. theyre all crooks even trump. trumps trade rep wasnt bad but the deal didnt meet public citizen trade watch standards either.
 

baklava

I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Federal minimum wage laws are unconstitutional. The federal government didn’t have that power enumerated to them. It’s more garbage from a Supreme Court bastardizing the commerce clause and ignoring the tenth amendment. It’s the same argument these scumbags used to cram down an unconstitutional drug war..
This economic libertarian garbage argument coming from a union employee.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
You can still fight for minimum wage laws, do it constitutionally on a state level.
that’s not good enough for marxist though, they want top down centralized control. Federal tyranny over every aspect of your life.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Hell you can even fight for minimum wage laws on the federal level. Just get enough support to amend the constitution like they did for prohibition. Enumerate that power to the federal government in the process the constitution laid out.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
You can still fight for minimum wage laws, do it constitutionally on a state level.
that’s not good enough for marxist though, they want top down centralized control. Federal tyranny over every aspect of your life.

Minimum wage kills jobs, and screws over skilled workers by putting them closer to minimum. No one's fighting for a medium wage. Unions have a better track record of getting workers better wages than the government, anyway. Freedom of association, the right to negotiate and enter into contracts. All constitutional.
 

rickyb

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Minimum wage kills jobs, and screws over skilled workers by putting them closer to minimum. No one's fighting for a medium wage. Unions have a better track record of getting workers better wages than the government, anyway. Freedom of association, the right to negotiate and enter into contracts. All constitutional.
minimum wage doesnt necessarily kill jobs lol.

yes people are fighting for a medium wage because the median wage is falling and the real wage is falling too.
 

baklava

I don’t work at UPS anymore.
It’s that constitutional garbage coming from an American citizen concerned about the federal government’s ever more centralized control and blatant disregard for the constitution.
The new deal happened 80+ years ago. Let’s go back to the gilded age and undo all workers’ rights that aren’t in the constitution. You have your conservative majority Supreme Court, you might get your wish.
 
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El Correcto

god is dead
Minimum wage kills jobs, and screws over skilled workers by putting them closer to minimum. No one's fighting for a medium wage. Unions have a better track record of getting workers better wages than the government, anyway. Freedom of association, the right to negotiate and enter into contracts. All constitutional.
What scares me is these economic illiterates proposing to tie minimum wage to inflation.
Then proceeding with a platform that will skyrocket inflation.

We certainly are on our way to a socialist utopia if that happens.
 

baklava

I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Minimum wage kills jobs, and screws over skilled workers by putting them closer to minimum. No one's fighting for a medium wage. Unions have a better track record of getting workers better wages than the government, anyway. Freedom of association, the right to negotiate and enter into contracts. All constitutional.
I much prefer the Denmark model over minimum wage, but American private sector unions are gutted with no lifeline in sight (PRO Act has zero chance)
 

El Correcto

god is dead
The new deal happened 80+ years ago. Let’s go back to the gilded age and undo all workers’ rights that aren’t in the constitution. You had your conservative majority Supreme Court, you might get your wish.
I agree, let’s hold the federal government to account and not allow these fear mongering big government politicians to scare us away from our constitution with threats of making us go build railroads in the desert.
 
I agree, let’s hold the federal government to account and not allow these fear mongering big government politicians to scare us away from our constitution with threats of making us go build railroads in the desert.
Railroads in the desert? I thought trump wanted to build a wall in the desert.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Railroads in the desert? I thought trump wanted to build a wall in the desert.
His contention is that the federal government’s unconstitutional power grabs is the only thing that stands in between the American people and the gilded age worker’s plight. I disagree and think he is being silly.
 
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