Biden and the Radical Left

[baklava]

Of al

I agree, let’s hold the federal government to account and not allow these fear mongering big government politicians to scare us away from our constitution with threats of making us go build railroads in the desert.

Of all the reasons to choose to argue against centralized federal power. NSA, DEA, CIA, FBI I’m with you. Federal minimum wage being equated to the war on drugs? FFS.

 

[baklava]

His contention is that the federal government’s unconstitutional power grabs is the only thing that stands in between the American people and the gilded age worker’s plight. I disagree and think he is being silly.

It took the federal government to end it

 

[El Correcto]

It took the federal government to end it

And that’s fine, but do it constitutionally. Don’t allow them to side step amending the constitution and getting the consent of the governed(the states) to do so.

 

[El Correcto]

Of al

Of all the reasons to choose to argue against centralized federal power. NSA, DEA, CIA, FBI I’m with you. Federal minimum wage being equated to the war on drugs? FFS.

It is almost exactly the same argument.
Interstate commerce and downgrading your tenth amendment.

 

[El Correcto]

Fun history fact. It was the evil “conservative” justices that dissented to the legality of the drug wars and the federal government being used to wage it.

You know that evil black man Clarence Thomas that you all hate.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Fun history fact. It was the evil “conservative” justices that dissented to the legality of the drug wars and the federal government being used to wage it.

You know that evil black man Clarence Thomas that you all hate.

Fun history facts. It was a conservative Supreme Court that ruled the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's right to an abortion without government restrictions.

 

[El Correcto]

Fun history facts. It was a conservative Supreme Court that ruled the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's right to an abortion without government restrictions.

I guess that depends if you count Dwight Eisenhower as a conservative. I don’t really see him as one, he was more of a moderate dude people could rally behind following WW2.

 

[baklava]

It is almost exactly the same argument.
Interstate commerce and downgrading your tenth amendment.

The intent and repercussions count for something.

And that’s fine, but do it constitutionally. Don’t allow them to side step amending the constitution and getting the consent of the governed(the states) to do so.

For all that I hear about “socialist utopia” there seems to be a libertarian utopia ideal in which the federal government is decimated and we have the same, or better, standard of living. Life was much, much better for the American worker after the New Deal. There is a slippery slope to federal power, this just doesn’t seem the hill to die on for a Union worker. Amending our constitution today will be just about impossible considering the polarized partisan reality. I’ll just take whatever win I can get as a worker.

 

[El Correcto]

The intent and repercussions count for something.

For all that I hear about “socialist utopia” there seems to be a libertarian utopia ideal in which the federal government is decimated and we have the same, or better, standard of living. Life was much, much better for the American worker after the New Deal. There is a slippery slope to federal power, this just doesn’t seem the hill to die on for a Union worker. Amending our constitution today will be just about impossible considering the polarized partisan reality. I’ll just take whatever win I can get as a worker.

Okay, I disagree the constitution is important and so is limiting government power. Also you will get nothing out of a minimum wage increase to $15 an hour. You just allow leftists to stick you in a class warfare group and tribalize you into blindly cheering on the unmooring of the constitutional limits placed on government as victories for you, an American citizen.

 

[El Correcto]

actually I take that back, you will get something out of a $15 minimum wage, like increased prices for goods and services passed onto you by the rich looking out for their bottom line.

What a great victory for you friend, you deserve it you maroon.

 

[baklava]

Okay, I disagree the constitution is important and so is limiting government power. Also you will get nothing out of a minimum wage increase to $15 an hour. You just allow leftists to stick you in a class warfare group and tribalize you into blindly cheering on the unmooring of the constitutional limits placed on government as victories for you, an American citizen.

Class warfare has always existed. Unions are a victory for us. We have the same job. Appreciate why you have your standard of living, instead of being another delusion libertarian.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Rounding up anchor baby’s parents to come vote for him so the fraud won’t be so obvious in 2024.
Thanks uncle Joe.

Anchor babies is so 2016.

 

[El Correcto]

Class warfare has always existed. Unions are a victory for us. We have the same job. Appreciate why you have your standard of living, instead of being another delusion libertarian.

I agree with your first four points. But the way they did it was wrong and people were stupid and uninformed back in the day compared to what we have access to now.

We should be coming together to let the process work out as laid out in the constitution. That’s all I’m saying. I think that is fully possible if we quit fighting over what we want to enforce on each other and just go through the constitutional process to give the federal government authority over all 50 states on the issues.

 

[MAKAVELI]

You can still fight for minimum wage laws, do it constitutionally on a state level.
that’s not good enough for marxist though, they want top down centralized control. Federal tyranny over every aspect of your life.

You wouldn't have unions on just a state level. Ttku...

 

[baklava]

I agree with your first four points. But the way they did it was wrong and people were stupid and uninformed back in the day compared to what we have access to now.

We should be coming together to let the process work out as laid out in the constitution. That’s all I’m saying. I think that is fully possible if we quit fighting over what we want to enforce on each other and just go through the constitutional process to give the federal government authority over all 50 states on the issues.

Fair enough. Any worker’s rights we have achieved that are not explicitly written into the constitution are ephemeral and so I would agree for the importance of “constitutionality” on those grounds alone.

 

[El Correcto]

You wouldn't have unions on just a state level. Ttku...

Why not, amend the constitution and guarantee unionization rights.

that’s all I’m saying. If democrats started talking like that I might hand them 4 years.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Why not, amend the constitution and guarantee unionization rights.

that’s all I’m saying. If democrats started talking like that I might hand them 4 years.

For the same reason slavery couldn't be a state issue.

 

[El Correcto]

For the same reason slavery couldn't be a state issue.

Well then let’s go to war for union rights on the side of the federal government

 

[MAKAVELI]

Well then let’s go to war for union rights on the side of the federal government

They already are just not written in the constitution. This why we have a legislative branch.

 

[El Correcto]

If you can garner popular support throughout the entire country to expand the federal governments enumerated powers, then have it at. Just follow the process.