Can I file this grievance without witness

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by iunnoimjustatcd, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. On Car supervisor handling packages while out on route shuttling me packages.
  2. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    oh yeah that's an EASY win
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  3. NonDeliverOtherMissed

    NonDeliverOtherMissed Active Member

  4. K got it all filled out and ready to file tomorrow along with 3 others. What all details should I put in there and how can I prove he did it? Article 46 right?
  5. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    Look at Article 3 Section 7, and add a phrase such as 'and all other applicable articles'. Talk to your steward. In general, you don't necessarily need (or want) to include too many details in the grievance itself; you would write the details up separately and attach (staple) to grievance. Your local practice might be different. But for this this I would think the number of packages moved, the meet point location and time, maybe the package car # s/he was driving would all be good info.
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  6. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    In my past experiences more info the better. Get his name, package 1z#, if he is in a ups truck (get a truck #), if it's his car (make model license plate). If you do that it looks really good in front of a labor manager because he if the one that has to go over the info. Also found a time clock in a ups bldg. Time it and give it to your stew. Good luck!
  7. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 the company violated Article 3, Section 7 of the National Master Agreement Supervisor John Smith shuttled 32 packages to me in truck #12345 @ 4 pm. I am asking for 2 hours @ double time and for the company to comply with Article 3, Section 7.

    That's a simple way.
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  8. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

  9. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

  10. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    The phrase I like is:

    "With any and all articles, that may apply."

    Either way, it keeps the door open.

    Short and simple is best.

    Providing too much information (in the grievance)....

    Gives the company an opportunity, to formulate a response. (rebuttal)

    They aren't that smart.

    Don't give them any unnecessary information.

    Wait for the hearing.

    Good advice.

    But, wait for the hearing to present it.

    You've done this before.

    I can tell.


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  11. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    Thx. It would be on the grievance. Forgot to put that in there.
  12. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    If you have 2 sups riding together do 2 teamsters get paid??
  13. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    If 2 teamsters file grievances. Or 1 teamster could file a grievance on 2 sups working.
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Technically only 1 is working. The other is just along for the ride. :)
  15. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    Either one..
  16. Gumby

    Gumby *

  17. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    Well the one in the jump seat is an accomplice to a so they should be busted also
  18. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

  19. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    They aren't that smart.

    Really..keep thinking that....
    We deny more grievances then you win...good luck. :eek:
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  20. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer