FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
No offense dude, but you're better off going to concrete sources you can actually point to
Change of operations
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Above10200
Well-Known Member
I am going to evey source I can to get as much information as possible so I can sort out all the b.s. from management, the union, other drivers, etc. The more you know the more you grow.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
when we were sent to the new hub , you did not lose any seniority for bidding. you were not punished for a change of operations. best that you talk to your BA.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
The local will have a meeting to inform the members of how they plan on handling the move but, in essence, you will have the option to either follow your work or to stay and bid on a new route based on your seniority.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
The Company DOES NOT pay relocation expenses for hourlies displaced as the result of a change of operations UNLESS their center is permanently closed.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
They cannot force you to move.
Above10200
Well-Known Member
The BA said that if enough people don't want to move to the new center they could force you to go to if you want to keep your job, starting with the least senior driver.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
But, but, Dave is authoritative.
gman042
Been around the block a few times
About 8 years ago UPS decided to satellite a small valley that housed 3 routes. They expected the drivers to follow their work. 2 drivers had been on their respective routes for about 20 years. The other driver had been on his route 4 years. They all declined to follow their work to the shock and consternation of UPS.
The kicker was the drivers would have to drive 100(50 each way) miles to the satellite location....on their own dime. No compensation for mileage or wear and tear.
The way it worked out is the routes were opened up for bid. There were no bids for the routes so they assigned the routes starting from the bottom up. They were forced to drive the mileage with no help from UPS on mileage. The only time mileage was paid is if someone was filling in on one of the routes from origin center.
The kicker was the drivers would have to drive 100(50 each way) miles to the satellite location....on their own dime. No compensation for mileage or wear and tear.
The way it worked out is the routes were opened up for bid. There were no bids for the routes so they assigned the routes starting from the bottom up. They were forced to drive the mileage with no help from UPS on mileage. The only time mileage was paid is if someone was filling in on one of the routes from origin center.
By The Book
Well-Known Member
Were these drivers forced to use their personal vehicles to drive to the satellite location? Did they punch in at the other drivers start time and drive an empty package car to the satellite location since they were forced?
By The Book
Well-Known Member
Good, you now have information from your BA. Are you a driver who owns a bid on one of these routes that are moving to the new center? I would think there will be changes to all the routes that are relocated to some degree. They may post and bid all the new routes once they figure out how many. These may be open to bid by all drivers in the centers affected. Like you said it's still early and in the planning stages. Go to those meetings and let them know you want all drivers and cover drivers who are not the bid driver to be on the clock and be able to use a package car to and from the satellite location and clock in and out at the origin center.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
this is why you are on ignore except this time because i went thru this . our satelite center was closed an d the company did pay moving expenses to the drivers who moved.
as usual you don't know what you are talking about.
don't bother responding because you are back on ignore.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
when our center closed I was commuting 70 miles each way everyday for 3 years. i wanted to keep the job.
we eventually moved within 40 miles to the center because we found better schools there for the kids instead of in the city. did that commute for another 20 years.
no regrets. would do it again.
happily retired in the mountains.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Do you get off on being a pathological liar?
oldngray
nowhere special
That got her into management.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
For someone who claims she hates management, they certainly set her up with some amazing circumstances that nobody else gets to experience.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
I know of a center where they satellited half of it and All had to drive with no compensation. Grieved and lost.
oldngray
nowhere special
That sucks but it is how things work. My whole center got moved to another building about 20 miles away and I had no choice but to go there. Before the move all the higher seniority drivers bid on different routes so they could stay but I was near the bottom of the seniority list.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
They saved a huge chunk of change satelliting those guys. I personally hate satellites. Just too many problems.
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