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i'll have to change my name (I failed to pick her up) but I'll keep my avatar. Just imagine that the baseball player in my avatar is striking out.
P/U, That is hilarious. But deary, I would never do that to you. One other person on here maybe, but never you. LOL
Sorry Pickup. I didn't realize it was Dizzee that posted until just now.oh dizzee, that's hilarious
i'll have to change my name (I failed to pick her up) but I'll keep my avatar. Just imagine that the baseball player in my avatar is striking out.
I wonder why your source didn't include walks and on base percentage? I think that stat is as important as batting average and home runs to strike out ratio.In his 16-season career, Dave Kingman batted .236, with 442 home runs, 1210 runs batted in, 901 runs scored, 1575 hits, 240 doubles, 25 triples and 85 stolen bases in 1,941 games played. He also struck out 1,816 times, then the 4th-highest total in history. He was named to the National League All-Star team three times (1976-1979-1980).
In his 16-season career, Dave Kingman batted .236, with 442 home runs, 1210 runs batted in, 901 runs scored, 1575 hits, 240 doubles, 25 triples and 85 stolen bases in 1,941 games played. He also struck out 1,816 times, then the 4th-highest total in history. He was named to the National League All-Star team three times (1976-1979-1980).
I wonder why your source didn't include walks and on base percentage? I think that stat is as important as batting average and home runs to strike out ratio.
You're probably right, but it would sure keep in my batting order. Ya can't score if you can't get on base.walks and on base percentage ain't gonna help push kingman into the hall of fame, I can assure you.
But then I keep thinking that some miracle will happen and Rose will be forgiven and make it in.
I don't get that. Betting is one of the cardinal sins in baseball, right? Pete Rose bet on teams while still in the game, and was caught, therefore he is banned from baseball. Just because he was a great player some people say he should be let into Cooperstown. Denied it for years until he thought that telling the truth might get him voted in. Wouldn't that be lowering the standard, like letting in Barry and Maguire in when they blatently were doing steroids during their most productive times? (Though anyone from the Bay area will tell you Bonds should be voted in on the first try) You let one violator of the rules in, you have to let them all in. Or is it subjective and you just let in the favorites?
I haven't really kept up with Rose for the last few years, I have no idea what extent his gambling ran. I do know that when it first came out, supposedly, he was not betting on games that his team were or would be playing, that the bets could not be hedged by his team losing. IF that is true, then I really see no harm in him betting, period. I understand the fears of a gambler getting too far in debt with the mob and all that, but you never know for certain that is going to happen.
Now with any of the steroid users, they all knew full well what they were taking and why. I have never seen another,so called modern era, player play the game with the intensity of Rose. He played in the same manner of Williams and Cobb. In fact it has been said that many times Williams would go into the locker room during the seventh inning stretch and call his bookie. True or not, that's the story I heard more than once.
So now, have we ruined the "Chat night ruined" thread?
That's a great hypothesis, and not far fetched at all really. However all hypothesis are still speculation. Not saying you are wrong, I understand that Rose did bet pretty high amounts of dough.
I don't disagree with you really. Actually my main premise was to allow Rose into the Hall. I don't necessarily think his being a manager would be a good idea. I also think that most managers were at one time pretty good ball players, but not superstars. They knew/know the game better than the superstars.I agree speculation. But when you bet on your team to win, it sets up a conflict of interests that wouldn't be there otherwise. You would like to think good judgement would prevail in choosing the correct interest, but if pete rose were able to exercise good judgment in this matter, he wouldn't have bet in the first place.
And you mentioned the mob in the other post. As soon as he bets one dollar with them, he is in a position of being blackmailed by them into doing their bidding lest they drop the dime on him. And if he is into tremendous debt with them, then he can be offered a chance to knock down that debt by losing a game.(sure thing for that particular mob can push their bet onto another gambling house.) I'm not saying any of this happened but it definitely could not happen if he didn't bet with them. This is in conjunction with the fact that a gambler's mind is not rational at times, and can really do stupid things in an effort to deal with consequences.
I don't disagree with you really. Actually my main premise was to allow Rose into the Hall. I don't necessarily think his being a manager would be a good idea. I also think that most managers were at one time pretty good ball players, but not superstars. They knew/know the game better than the superstars.