Crazy. 8 hour dispatch.

Coldworld

60 months and counting
When I first started driving, I honest-to-god, thought that Orion was a marketing gimmick. Have our trucks driving down the same streets, over and over, make it seem like UPS is omnipresent.
Also, the first thing I was tought as a driver was to turn off odo.
Just like during the strike when they were driving trucks around to make it look like “business as usual”.... then when mgt did have packages to deliver they were being kicked off of customers property left and right because customers wanted THEIR driver back.... but on the brightside each sup/Mgr received a participation plaque stating that they helped keep the company going during the 2 week Teamsters strike...lol. Many mgt proudly displayed that plaque next to their years of service plaques and the picture of the four founding fathers of ups....
 

Bubblehead

My Senior Picture
When I first started driving, I honest-to-god, thought that Orion was a marketing gimmick. Have our trucks driving down the same streets, over and over, make it seem like UPS is omnipresent.
Also, the first thing I was tought as a driver was to turn off odo.
Seriously, while we are making $36+/hr straight time, saving a dollar in fuel a day (maybe) is somehow now the priority???

ORION has yet to show it's true mission....wait for it.
 

Undertow

Well-Known Member
What makes you think they have to put this together "in a span of mere months"?
I submit that they are already holding auditions over the past 3 months and have years to tinker and perfect.

....and what makes you think that the Company wants them to stick around??

When these employees hire in at half scale, with an enormous amount of flexibility in job content and scheduling, 4 year progression, no vacations for a year, while not vesting for 5 years in a now single employee pension fund (Central Region), wouldn't it be advantageous to have a high off-street turnover rate???

Does this sound familiar?....(part timers)

22.4 will be the only gateway to becoming a regular package car driver for part time employees (who don't wan't the job to begin with)....so off-street 22.4's will be the new high turnover, discounted classification for the Company.

ORION is likely nothing what it seems to be on the surface....and it certainly has nothing to do with saving fuel.

I believe the Company is using ORION to catalog data, as it goes from mandatory to completely ignored from week, to month, to year.

At the very least, it's to assist inexperienced drivers, while the inverse fringe edge is ORION is being perfected for autonomous vehicle programming.

The Company has a plan and they will execute it, while reinterpreting, exploiting, and perverting this poorly written 22.4 hybrid driver language.

....and yes, part of "the plan" is to have as many RPCD's as possible to tap out on any given day, allowing the full twenty five percent of 22.4's to drive as much as possible.

So when you get that call, what will you do???
I haven't seen a new hire be able to ignore Orion when it's the only option there is in the DIAD to view the stops. For many of us, RDO no longer being an option is the reality. If the company's true motive with Orion is to catalog data or anything else rather than what we were told it was being chained to us to begin with, and new drivers can't figure it out to the extent that they either quit or wash out in a matter of weeks and often even mere days, then it's actually failing to assist inexperienced drivers - So much so to the point here that many of the experienced drivers reach the 60hr threshold having to continually clean up the mess.

Sure the company will try to execute the plan. I previously stated as much regarding the language and never argued to the contrary. They've always exploited the language in the contract regardless of what article it pertained to. No reason to figure that would ever change. Trying it isn't the same as executing it and the events you describe unfolding would take a level of success that management can't seem to make happen even one building at a time much less simultaneously on a nationwide scale. Maybe there's an ample pool of motivated unemployed talent where you are that's available to tap into with a sufficient training staff, enough trucks, enough space to put them, and enough people to load them so that you experience the scenario exactly as you describe sometime in the near future.

But I don't see that future showing up tomorrow, the next day, or anytime soon here where I am. So when I get that call? At best, it's not a matter of "When" here and I'm skeptical that "If" is on the horizon anytime soon unless an economic collapse of epic proportion occurs (always a possibility). For discussion's sake, on the assumption I were to receive such a call, my decision would be based on exactly what options were available and that is something I've already inquired about with the stewards regarding what I could accept and what I could refuse, as I would honestly like to know. Their response was "Quit kidding yourself. Nobody has been able to get Mondays off for over two years and that isn't changing."
 

Undertow

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the armchair play by play... stick to your day job and leave these big boy decisions to high level mgt like @Dragon.... even though I don’t think many of these decisions are in his salary band... but who knows, maybe they promoted him to full time by now...
I can't remember seeing any posts from anyone with that handle, but I guess I'll take your word for it. Seems like that's the kind of employee the company never seems to have a shortage of...
 
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