District Realignment

Dragon

Package Center Manager
I honestly think we need to all get along. I'm not bashing anyone, but someone puts alot of claims out there. And it is painfully obvious everyone is an idiot, that disagrees with their thought process. Old man jingles. I thought you had retired all ready? Things have changed since you last stepped foot into here.

I just wanted to make it clear to everyone on the Partners Forum.

I may disagree with you at times, but it does not mean I hate you or dislike you.

Keep up the posting..it gets boring on here sometimes.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
that phone list was also up-kept by IE....
That is correct if you are talking about the ATLAS directory that had it listed by function for every District and center in the US and eventually globally.
It was developed and maintained by the Iperations Portfolio and the User Rep was in I.E.
 

JustAnotherSup

Active Member
The Partners Forum is dead.

By the standard of forums on BC, perhaps. Then again, there's a lot less management than non-management to begin with. Not only that, but a number of topics regarding UPS that I'd love to be able to discuss anonymously are topics that aren't necessarily appropriate for a public forum. Or perhaps things that could be appropriate for a public forum, but the post won't really do any good anywhere... like, why do flex pt supervisors exist? Who thought they were a good idea? Didn't anyone think how much more valuable tues-sat pt sups would be? Didn't anyone consider that we could probably pay an existing pt supervisor a 6-punch for Saturday in a lot of cases and have it be way cheaper than a flex if cost is the issue (especially given no additional benefits owed or any other similar expenses like there would be for additional employees...)? Did anyone even consider that flex supervisors result in significant overstaffing on Saturday? Each center at my HUB has 2 flex PTPCSes for Saturday, for example. Combined, every center runs about HALF the total number of drivers on Saturday as just 1 center does Mon-Fri. So why can't we just have 2 (1 AM and 1 PM) for every package center, especially since we run Saturday all out of 1 office anyway, meaning all of the flex PTPCSes are sitting in there together, etc... Especially since we've established based on flex ptpcs call-ins that any 1 of those flex ptpcses can handle every center combined, on their own, anyway. And with the number of duplicated on-roads among the centers on Saturday... you could honestly just have salaried employees do everything and have ZERO flex PTPCSes. They don't need to exist. The waste is insane. But is a thread about flex supervisors really worth posting? Not really, IMO. Now if someone here thinks flex supervisors are a good well-executed idea on the part of UPS, please start a topic, cause I'd love to see what you have to say in support of that.

So good topics are a bit more limited.

Back on topic...

But by the standard of a UPSers Connect community, the partners forum is extraordinarily active. So there's that. Of course, the epic failure of UPSers Connect isn't a very good topic either, though.
 

drbrownsox

Well-Known Member
By the standard of forums on BC, perhaps. Then again, there's a lot less management than non-management to begin with. Not only that, but a number of topics regarding UPS that I'd love to be able to discuss anonymously are topics that aren't necessarily appropriate for a public forum. Or perhaps things that could be appropriate for a public forum, but the post won't really do any good anywhere... like, why do flex pt supervisors exist? Who thought they were a good idea? Didn't anyone think how much more valuable tues-sat pt sups would be? Didn't anyone consider that we could probably pay an existing pt supervisor a 6-punch for Saturday in a lot of cases and have it be way cheaper than a flex if cost is the issue (especially given no additional benefits owed or any other similar expenses like there would be for additional employees...)? Did anyone even consider that flex supervisors result in significant overstaffing on Saturday? Each center at my HUB has 2 flex PTPCSes for Saturday, for example. Combined, every center runs about HALF the total number of drivers on Saturday as just 1 center does Mon-Fri. So why can't we just have 2 (1 AM and 1 PM) for every package center, especially since we run Saturday all out of 1 office anyway, meaning all of the flex PTPCSes are sitting in there together, etc... Especially since we've established based on flex ptpcs call-ins that any 1 of those flex ptpcses can handle every center combined, on their own, anyway. And with the number of duplicated on-roads among the centers on Saturday... you could honestly just have salaried employees do everything and have ZERO flex PTPCSes. They don't need to exist. The waste is insane. But is a thread about flex supervisors really worth posting? Not really, IMO. Now if someone here thinks flex supervisors are a good well-executed idea on the part of UPS, please start a topic, cause I'd love to see what you have to say in support of that.

So good topics are a bit more limited.

Back on topic...

But by the standard of a UPSers Connect community, the partners forum is extraordinarily active. So there's that. Of course, the epic failure of UPSers Connect isn't a very good topic either, though.

I’d imagine that the Workforce Optimization that is going on in the hub will move onto the PT Supervisor ranks at some point.
 

thecamel

Waiting to put the re in front of tired
By the standard of forums on BC, perhaps. Then again, there's a lot less management than non-management to begin with. Not only that, but a number of topics regarding UPS that I'd love to be able to discuss anonymously are topics that aren't necessarily appropriate for a public forum. Or perhaps things that could be appropriate for a public forum, but the post won't really do any good anywhere... like, why do flex pt supervisors exist? Who thought they were a good idea? Didn't anyone think how much more valuable tues-sat pt sups would be? Didn't anyone consider that we could probably pay an existing pt supervisor a 6-punch for Saturday in a lot of cases and have it be way cheaper than a flex if cost is the issue (especially given no additional benefits owed or any other similar expenses like there would be for additional employees...)? Did anyone even consider that flex supervisors result in significant overstaffing on Saturday? Each center at my HUB has 2 flex PTPCSes for Saturday, for example. Combined, every center runs about HALF the total number of drivers on Saturday as just 1 center does Mon-Fri. So why can't we just have 2 (1 AM and 1 PM) for every package center, especially since we run Saturday all out of 1 office anyway, meaning all of the flex PTPCSes are sitting in there together, etc... Especially since we've established based on flex ptpcs call-ins that any 1 of those flex ptpcses can handle every center combined, on their own, anyway. And with the number of duplicated on-roads among the centers on Saturday... you could honestly just have salaried employees do everything and have ZERO flex PTPCSes. They don't need to exist. The waste is insane. But is a thread about flex supervisors really worth posting? Not really, IMO. Now if someone here thinks flex supervisors are a good well-executed idea on the part of UPS, please start a topic, cause I'd love to see what you have to say in support of that.

So good topics are a bit more limited.

Back on topic...

But by the standard of a UPSers Connect community, the partners forum is extraordinarily active. So there's that. Of course, the epic failure of UPSers Connect isn't a very good topic either, though.


Is it just me?? Or could you replace flex pt sup with Orion in this entire post and make the very same point?? Hmmmmm????
 

UPSER1987

Well-Known Member
I just wanted to make it clear to everyone on the Partners Forum.

I may disagree with you at times, but it does not mean I hate you or dislike you.

Keep up the posting..it gets boring on here sometimes.


I agree, but every thread gets interrupted by posters who have no clue of what they are talking about. A guy that cant even run his route telling others how to run the company. Can’t fight stupid.
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
i know they want to slim down the support functions into leaner units, put more people back into the ops

ass backwards IMO, at least without a :censored2:load of investment into knowledge retention and training of which we have none

drivers like to mock those support specialists that sit in an office and just keep docs up to date, but man without those people this place would be a chaotic hellhole

I think UPS ultimately wants to run a limited support staff from Corp with a standardized set of tools, and hire more educated people into ops. When these new ops people aren't hitting their numbers in one area or another, they can do their own limited engineering where needed, etc. This is why ops managers have been given the highest pay grades-they'll make the calls and the rest of the district follows. There isn't a committee of district staff or a "BPU" anymore.
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
UPSers Connect ?

What is it? Seriously.
It's a social media esque wall inside the UPSers.com site. You "connect" or friend others in UPS in a UPS run forum. People can see who is in your network, you can join up for groups, etc.

I did see where one PT sup used it to post start times to the hourlies instead of taping pieces of paper to the exit doors and vending machines.

I guess people should be trading ideas or sharing success stories up there, similar to Linked In, but just UPS topics.
 
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TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
I think UPS ultimately wants to run a limited support staff from Corp with a standardized set of tools, and hire more educated people into ops. When these new ops people aren't hitting their numbers in one area or another, they can do their own limited engineering where needed, etc. This is why ops managers have been given the highest pay grades-they'll make the calls and the rest of the district follows. There isn't a committee of district staff or a "BPU" anymore.
i'm sorta cool with that IF they get the bolded part right, which they haven't yet and aren't doing in a hurry
 

drbrownsox

Well-Known Member
i'm sorta cool with that IF they get the bolded part right, which they haven't yet and aren't doing in a hurry
I would love to see a standard justification in transportation. It seems like the better your justification is the more likely its going to be approved. The numbers are the numbers and should do the talking. Not how much BS I can put into a justification.
 

PeakMode

Arrive Peak Leave
Which one?
Looks like somebody wasn’t paying attention on that conference call
Which one? Morning Call, Why we suck a Preload Smart Scan Call, OE Call, Pkg Division Manager Call, Staffing call before the Staffing meeting Call, Why yall sheeting biz close at lunch call, EAM not in SHIPs call, CIPE HEAT call, IE call...?
 

Dragon

Package Center Manager
Which one?

Which one? Morning Call, Why we suck a Preload Smart Scan Call, OE Call, Pkg Division Manager Call, Staffing call before the Staffing meeting Call, Why yall sheeting biz close at lunch call, EAM not in SHIPs call, CIPE HEAT call, IE call...?

So that is why we need less management people so we can have more calls for anyone left.
We are in so much trouble...that I am being serious about.
 
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