Does seniority prevail with having to go help people at the end of day?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Brown Biscuit, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member


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  2. babboo25

    babboo25 Well-Known Member

    Wow, you represent all that is wrong with this company, I worked 59 hours last week, I am truly fatigued. Even got 5 hours of bonus with using a helper, I did my part, time for management to do theirs but unfortunately it’s too late for that, so sad.
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  3. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    You would then be trying to justify your discipline to the DOT and OSHA. There are over 100 such cases every year, industry-wide.

    The truth is that UPS knows that the rulings have come down in the favor of the drivers in these cases unless the driver's assessment is totally unreasonable.
  4. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman



  5. TheBrownFlush

    TheBrownFlush Well-Known Member

    new, old, helper, part time, full time, sinner, saint, male, female, don't know your gender today, ..... "work as instructed."
  6. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    Go back to touting Orion and bean counting.
    Did they let you trade in your polo shirt for a tie when they brought you into the land of make believe (IE)?

    Do you find it difficult to discipline your computer tablet?
  7. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    They're forcing at least 200 feeder drivers to work here this Sunday at double time, but they're making sure that everyone who is forced is coming off a 34 hour reset so I doubt that the "fatigued" line would hold up if the company really wanted to make a case out of it which they won't because they are so desperate for bodies right now. If I don't want to work I'll just call in sick like any other day.
  8. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    Hard to claim fatigued after a 34 hour reset. Easy after 60 hours in 5 days.

    Last year we had a driver who was “forced” to come in for his 6th report. He did a few stops, called up his sup and told him he was too tired to operate the vehicle any more. Hilarious. It was a huge mess.

    FYI, I’m a team player this year. Ask me nicely, don’t :censored2: me during the week, and If I’m feee I have no problem coming in sat.
  9. Bubblehead

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    I thought you weren't going to be posting sexual innuendo anymore???

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  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    This is part of the job. Kind of a major part of the job. I’ve got 15 years in. I still get the green light of death. Do I bitch about going to help people? No. I do my job and let the anchor down and file 9.5.
  11. twoweeled

    twoweeled Well-Known Member

    I've been outta package for awhile. With that in mind. It's probably going to depend a lot on your Local. By the time it get taken care of, most of peak will be over. Seniority should matter, but at peak, some get real lax with the rules. I don't know if you still get incentive/bonus whatever you wanna call it, but there are certain drivers who will be choice driver to help other people. The lowest paid (new guys) will be first on the choice list (they are usually runners too because they're new). The last on the list, is the guy who is a low production driver and will make them pay for picking him. If they pick that low production guy, he throws out the parachute and goes into an even lower gear. He'll deliver everything, no matter how long it takes (AND IT WILL A LONG TIME). He'll come in at the end of the night and not say a thing. His production drop from low to lower, will say everything that need me said.
    You have just read, the truth.
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture have heard of me???;)
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  13. twoweeled

    twoweeled Well-Known Member

    Not sure about this one. You have the right to return, I think it's still 10 hours between punch in and punch out. Just claiming you're fatigued could open a can of worms, you don't want to open. I'd bet on that one. I also don't think it's right. That is the job now.
  14. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I do not know who that person is that started that thread. I am me now. I do not live in the past. Is there something I can help you with sir ?
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  15. twoweeled

    twoweeled Well-Known Member

    LMAO!! Very pleased to make your acquaintance, Sir! There are normally only about two of us per center. Everyone claims to be that guy, but normally only two, maybe three at the most. :lol:
  16. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    What kind of "can of worms"???
    Just curious...
  17. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

    only boomer dorks think anyone actually wears ties or uses tablets these days

    get with the times old man
  18. twoweeled

    twoweeled Well-Known Member

    They may start to discuss whether or not he's able of meeting DOT requirements. Sure, we have the right to a minimum of 10 hours between punch out, punch in. But if he's unable to preform with DOT's minimum, maybe he's unfit? It should work once, maybe twice. But if the center decides they wanna make a statement or example, well then that could be the can of worms. Not saying it's right, but,,,
  19. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I'll let you know how it goes.
  20. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    There have already been rulings siding with the drivers. What if the driver has been going on 5 hours of sleep a night due to a long commute to and from work, and responsibilities before work like getting the kids ready and taking them to school? It’s literally unsafe.

    You guys cry and cry and cry, but are too afraid to stand up to the company. I as well as 10-15 drivers did it every single sat last peak, lots of other drivers took a sat here and there to recooperate and get some rest.

    60 hours is what we all signed up for, now to work 60 in 5 days and be forced to come in Saturday to jump for another 10 is absolutely unacceptable.