Don't put yourself in this situation.

[oldngray]

And I've told them more than once, "get your kids out of the street"

I don't usually have a problem with kids playing in the street if there is little traffic and someone is watching them if they are little. If they block the street and won't move or aren't watching for cars then I do object. At least they are outside getting some fresh air and exercise.

 

[Johney]

Just a friendly reminder. I have your sups number....I will make the call.

WDFD

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

WDFD

Kiss off

 

[Johney]

I'm thinking about calling in tomorrow. Florida apparently is going to get hit with bad rain, tropical storm. It's been raining and stopping alittle today.

Central Florida bad from what I'm hearing.

 

[Johney]

Kiss off

Bite me.

 

[Foamer Pyle]

Look under you vehicle every time you come back to it?

What's next, look to see if kids climb on the roof?

It's a terrible tragedy, but the blame is on the parents.

I have 3 kids and trust me when they were 5, we watched them like hawks.

I have to agree with you, the blame is on the parents, but we know UPS will fire the driver. So many parents just don't want to be responsible for their own kids, just like that parent at the zoo. They always want to blame someone else too.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

... but we know UPS will fire the driver.

This is not necessarily true.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

This is not necessarily true.

If they don't fire him


They will make him want to quit.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If they don't fire him


They will make him want to quit.

Depends on the circumstances.

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

When I was growing up, one of my older brothers' friends was at a local beach. (In Texas you are allowed to drive on all beaches, and the beaches are all public) A little girl ran in front of him to get a beach ball. He ran over her and killed her. The little girl turned toward him right before he hit her and looked him in the eye. That has haunted him the rest of his life, as I'm sure this incident will as well. My heart and prayers go out to the child's family as well as the driver involved.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Depends on the circumstances.

I've seen guys get fired for less.. and others surprisingly keep their job. The key factor was... tell the truth.

 

[oldngray]

I've seen guys get fired for less.. and others surprisingly keep their job. The key factor was... tell the truth.

I would agree the odds would be better if you told the truth about everything but there always seems to be an element of luck as to the outcome.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I've seen guys get fired for less.. and others surprisingly keep their job. The key factor was... tell the truth.

He got on the phone shortly after the incident.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I would agree the odds would be better if you told the truth about everything but there always seems to be an element of luck as to the outcome.

Honestly I saw a few drivers (if I was to bet money on) keep their job. On the other hand I saw a few who never came back.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

He got on the phone shortly after the incident.

And???

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

And???

Tells me he wasn't trying to hide anything.

We had a driver fired for waiting 45 minutes to call in a property damage accident.

 

[oldngray]

The contract doesn't specify an exact length of time to call it in. Maybe he didn't have his phone and took that long to get to a phone? 45 minutes seems to fall in a gray area. Soon but not immediate. I would expect that driver to get his job back.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The contract doesn't specify an exact length of time to call it in. Maybe he didn't have his phone and took that long to get to a phone? 45 minutes seems to fall in a gray area. Soon but not immediate. I would expect that driver to get his job back.

I think he was off for a week.

He had his phone and 4 bars of service.

He was trying to cover up what had happened.

 

[JackStraw]

and that includes disregarding safety

"Hey we don't mean for you to take all the rules literally" Safety first, but if it's gonna get in the way of production......

 

[Richard Harrow]

If they don't fire him


They will make him want to quit.

They'll either offer him 22.3 in the building or just give him his accrued pension and tell him go work elsewhere.

He'll never drive for UPS again, that much is certain.