It all started when Reagan busted the ATC union. Then again as a 30 year line sort package handler it's quite clear that Democrat labor laws have nevertheless been quite good to you.
FedEx driver accused of abduction murder of 7 year old girl
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DriveInDriveOut
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I am a truck driver for UPS and I haven't worked there for even close to 30 years. I suggest you try to not deflect to people's personal lives bacha. It makes it look like you aren't capable of intelligent conversation, and I know you are.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
No it didn't, Democrats have a long history of union busting, all the way back to the early 1900's. But that's irrelevant.
This happened in the year 2022, when the Democrats have majority power. Blaming a guy who is dead is just silliness.
yadig
Well-Known Member
It’s kinda silly to be talking bout Regan in the 80’s when Biden just “rail road” the unions! I’m angry bacha that it happened and it’s a signal for corporations that the unions are no longer much of a threat!
I got on the case of my state's AFL-CIO president about the diminishing presence of labor unions. I pointed to the fact that a sizeable portion of it's membership are public sector employees. The reason that exists is because the courts of my state ruled in the unions favor and public sector employers had no recourse but to allow them to organize. It was simply a "here public sector employer sign on the dotted line"... it was easy money for the labor unions. .
Out in the private sector employers have far more numerous and far more effective counter measures and unions have become quite gun shy. Don't want to risk getting sued for big bucks. So if you're a private sector employee and are willing to take all the risks sacrifice your present and future employment to get a union then the union people will come in after all the heavy lifting is done and all danger has passed.
After giving me the "him haw" and all the "gee gosh" he had no choice but to come out and admit these facts. However, he did point and correctly that the GOP stacked courts have severely reduced the organizing power of the unions. There are simply fewer laws that support the right to collective bargaining.
Cactus
Just telling it like it is
Any time @DriveInDriveOut gets involved the thread always runs off the rails into a political pissing contest.
He needs to join a political science forum instead.
DriveInDriveOut
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DriveInDriveOut
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Bacha is suggesting this murder will result in proposed legislation ending the independent contractor model.
What are your thoughts?
Let me for the zillionth time correct you. I said that it might end up with new legislation created rules of engagement that limits the sectors and operating environments where independent contractors can operate such as close in interaction with the public such as residential package delivery.
I realize that this site is a key source of FREE entertainment for you. It's not meant to be used that way. And if is in fact estate property of a deceased individual and has liquidity it might not be around much longer.
DriveInDriveOut
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That's what I just said bacha.
or just go away. I rarely read either him or Bacha
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You not only take the time to read our posts, you take the time to complain about them.
Ok. Let’s say all of that is true.
What does adding the bit about contracting with Joe’s Delivery Service is necessary to the story? What does it add and for who’s benefit?
Wasn’t there a ups driver shooting random cars on some highway out west ? There’s nuts everywhere!!!
Let me try one more time. I NEVER said that new legislation may serve to totally eliminate the use of independent contractors . What I did say was that it might limit when and where they can be used. We'll see what happens there.
Now here is the flash point. FDX continues to set and enforce the standards of conduct and behavior of another company's employees. And to this point it's getting away with it. It demands full contractor employee subjugation to the same conduct and behavior rules that it requires of it's own corporate employees.
Some contractors provide their employees with an employee handbook spelling out the contractors terms of employment including it's rules and disciplines. The truth of the matter is that it's not the contractor's rules.....It's FDX rules in a handbook printed at the expense of....guess who?.....The contractor.
As for the place and standing of the individual contractor.....I told the new director of contractor relations right to his face.
" Migrant farm workers have better protection under the law than FXG contractors" . His response? he stood there in silence and after awhile he finally said....."I cannot argue that point". He knew the contract offered the contractor no protection legal or otherwise. And he left the company not long afterward.
Now in regard to this murder case. New question the contractor is going to get sued and will be lucky if he isn't brought up on charges If the contractor was smart he would copy the New Mexico case . Immediately closeup shop dissolve the corporation and try to salvage as much cash as he can out of it. I know that FDX finally had to provide contractors with workman's comp coverage.
The question is....does it also provide general business liability coverage?
Perhaps Sam or IWBF can answer that question.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
He was a feeder driver that hadn’t eaten in 4 hrs. He was crazed with hunger.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Another long rambling post where you attempt to disagree with me, but instead you take 10x the words to say the same thing as I did.
No I did NOT say the same thing you did. You have wrongly accused me of say that the end result will be a blanket elimination of all independent contractors in all sectors of the economy. I did not say that. What did say it that there may be new restrictions prohibiting the use of IC's in certain sectors of the economy.
What is correct however is your continued use of this site as an instrument of free entertainment . I don't know what you'll do if the estate of the deceased owner decides to sell this site and it becomes used for purposes other than this.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
No I didn't.
Stop deflecting.
