There sure is alot of pissing and moaning that goes on here. Everyone says how awful FedEx is or how awful UPS is and that anyone should go and try to do something else if you can. In the grand scheme of things, it's not a bad gig at either place. especially for all you tenured UPS drivers that never went to school - Jesus, what do you do with all that money? Remember, there's alot of young fresh college graduates with business degrees and marketing degrees and teaching degrees that either can't find work, or will never be paid as well as you guys or get as good of benefits as you. Just puts it in perspective.