FedEx mounts big-money push to head off unionization by US workers

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by Jones, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Nooooo, Trump is the presumptive winner just like Hillary was in 2016. So the money is flowing his way. Not to mention he's been good for business and they want to keep that going.
  2. bacha29

    bacha29 Well-Known Member

    Aided by a tax cut where 83% of the tax benefits went to 1% of the population, the largest deficits in history and far more of the tax savings going to stock buybacks than increased R&D.
  3. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Like I said, he's been good for business. And millions of jobs were created.
  4. It will be fine

    It will be fine Well-Known Member

    The government doesn’t create jobs, pinko.
  5. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Did I say they did?
  6. It will be fine

    It will be fine Well-Known Member

    What does what you say matter?
  7. 59 Dano

    59 Dano I just want to make friends!

    You see something that's bad and you don't like it and your immediate reaction is to use it as justification for your own failure. That's why you're the head nut in the peanut gallery. Right up there with "Why come I have to make service? Plane landed 2 minutes late. NOT FAIR."
  8. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    There is little comparison between the average courier today and the the average courier of the past.

    1. Today's couriers can't read a map and have little sense of urgency or time commitments.

    2. They are generally not self-directed and capable of independent thought.

    3. SPH and customer service are nowhere near where they used to be.

    4. Today's courier generally has zero intention of making it a career, and turnover is astoundingly high. Why would you stay? No retirement, glacial pay progression etc.

    5. In the past, most couriers refused to be managers because they'd take a pay cut, and most were smarter than their managers. In your case, it wouldn't be a very high bar.
  9. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    You completely sidestep the fact that there’s an epidemic of CEO’s exercising bad judgement, bad performance and even criminal activity and being rewarded for it. Yet you go crying that if a courier has not so stellar performance they should be outside looking in. It’s people like you that cheerlead bad CEO behavior and performance. Those are the types of people that put millions of jobs at risk but yet some lowly courier should have a few lates then it’s time for a court Marshall. You’re also a perfect example of why FedEx has long ceased being “a people company.”
  10. 59 Dano

    59 Dano I just want to make friends!

    I guess they just drive aimlessly.

    Some are, some aren't. No different than the lifers.

    See #2. No different than the lifers.

    Higher turnover is a problem across most industries.

    This is all the usual crap that you hear from people who can't cut it. They don't want to address their own deficiencies and their defense mechanism is to complain about how much better they were in the good old days and how all these new people could never do the work and blah blah blah.

    Tell me about it! If I had a dollar for every courier who had all the answers, I'd be loaded. If I had to give a dollar back for every courier who had all of the answers but lacked the balls to step up and lead others down that path to excellence, I might have ten bucks. It's a lot easier to make excuses than to make an effort.
  11. 59 Dano

    59 Dano I just want to make friends!

    WTF do CEOs of other companies have to do with courier performance?

    Hey, let's pay people to do a job! And if they can't do it well, let's keep paying them to do it anyway! And when we have to scale back benefits and raises in part because we're the go-to place for people who can do as they damn well please and get paid forever to do it, we can listen to Cactus piss and moan about it!
  12. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    If you're going to accuse me of saying something, at least let me say it.

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't say Freight wasn't interested. I would say FedEx's union busting campaign beat the crap out of the Teamsters organizing campaign.
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  14. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    For someone like you who considers himself so incredibly smart, you figure it out.

    Sounds like you haven't been taking your Ritalin lately.
  15. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    Your changing the subject. Obviously if someone CANT do the job they are going to be terminated.

    but if you have a 50 year old 20 year employee who does the job slower than a 22 year old 1 year employee. You cannot fire them.

    but in your world, someone who does the job slower equates to not being able to do the job?

    Well aren’t you just an adorable little company man.
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  16. It will be fine

    It will be fine Well-Known Member

    If the job requires a clearly stated standard of speed you can fire them. You aren’t firing them for being old, you are firing them for failing to meet the standards of the job. This isn’t difficult.
  17. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    Strange bedfellows!
  18. Fred's Myth

    Fred's Myth Nonhyphenated American

    Express "standard of speed" is a variable, subject to the whims of management. It is based on the premise that if a number has ever been achieved, regardless of circumstances, it is attainable under all circumstances.

    It is immaterial that the purported experts, management, cannot personally demonstrate that attainability. I say put up or shut up.
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  19. McFeely

    McFeely Huge Member

    We've got 50-something veterans who can get the job done way quicker/better than a lot of the new young couriers. The veterans have 5 stops made before the new guy has all the addresses put into his phone some mornings.

    Running fast and speeding doesn't necessarily equate to being faster. Many veteran couriers can walk to every stop on their entire route and do it in less time than a new courier who runs, simply because they spend too much time spazzing about how many stops they have or whatever.
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  20. Operational needs

    Operational needs Virescit Vulnere Virtus

    Not to mention, the veteran courier has learned to follow all the methods to the letter, which management hates. New couriers ignore methods and figure as long as it gets done, what does it matter how.