Gas up again!
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29th Christmas
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Still 1.12 for 85 octane and 2.07 for diesel........but for how long
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Probably not very long. The govt is looking in to raising gasoline taxes due in part to fewer miles being driven nationwide. Funds from gasoline taxes are used to maintain the roads and the fear is that there will not be enough money raised to cover this expense. The ironic part, at least in my mind, is that for years and years they have been harping on us to conserve, conserve, conserve, and now that we are (perhaps not by choice) they are crying that they don't have enough money.
In my city, demand for electricity has fallen, both due to conservation and installation of energy efficient applicances, to the point where revenue has fallen short of expenses and they are calling for a rate increase. Again, years of telling us to reduce, reuse, and recycle has finally begun to show results and now they are crying because they are broke.
This should be a very interesting year!
OldUPSDriver
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$2.09 here in Reno Nv
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
$3.99 for the made-in Oregon biodiesel I run in my VW Jetta TDI
$2.49 for the made-in Oregon E85 ethanol flex-fuel I run in my Dodge Caravan.
There is a $.50 per gallon Oregon tax credit for use of these fuels, so in reality they are cheaper once you factor in the tax savings, but you still have to put the $$ out up front.
Its been awhile since I have bought any actual "gas", but a couple of weeks ago when I topped off my '76 Chevy 4x4 it was around $1.79 a gallon or so. To be perfectly honest, I dont pay any attention to the prices because for the 2 vehicles that I drive 99% of the time I only buy the locally made biofuels anyway. I only drive the truck when I need 4-wheel drive or am hauling firewood.
$2.49 for the made-in Oregon E85 ethanol flex-fuel I run in my Dodge Caravan.
There is a $.50 per gallon Oregon tax credit for use of these fuels, so in reality they are cheaper once you factor in the tax savings, but you still have to put the $$ out up front.
Its been awhile since I have bought any actual "gas", but a couple of weeks ago when I topped off my '76 Chevy 4x4 it was around $1.79 a gallon or so. To be perfectly honest, I dont pay any attention to the prices because for the 2 vehicles that I drive 99% of the time I only buy the locally made biofuels anyway. I only drive the truck when I need 4-wheel drive or am hauling firewood.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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rod
Retired 23 years
So there is a .50 cent credit for E-85? That makes it $1.99 a gallon. Now you say reg. gas is $1.79. So you pay 20 cents more a gallon and get at least 30% less gas milage with E85. What is the advantage of this?
Sometime tree hugging ain't all it's cracked up to be. E-85 is one of the biggest ripoffs to the American tax payer going. A food source (corn) should NEVER be turned into an energy source.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
So there is a .50 cent credit for E-85? That makes it $1.99 a gallon. Now you say reg. gas is $1.79. So you pay 20 cents more a gallon and get at least 30% less gas milage with E85. What is the advantage of this?
There is no financial advantage to what I am doing. The only advantage is that the fuel I am using is renewable and produced locally instead of being imported from countries that support terrorism.
The ethanol I use is refined at a local refinery, from corn. Once you have refined corn into ethanol, what is left over is a high-protien, high quality corn meal product that is then used for cattle feed.
If you feed a cow raw corn, it digests the starch and farts out huge quantities of methane gas. If you refine that same corn into ethanol first, and then only feed the byproducts to the cow, it derives the same nutritional benefit without emitting the methane. That energy is instead captured in the ethanol. In other words, a car using E85 is basically running on cow farts.
The company I buy my fuel from (Sequential) is also investing in second-generation cellulosic ethanol refining, which can use any form of biomass including straw, wood pulp or agricultural waste products as feedstocks for ethanol.
A third of our imported petroleum comes from Saudi Arabia, a country in where any human born with a uterus is automatically considered to be the sub-human property of the man who owns her. Women cant vote, cant drive, and cant be out in public without a male escort. I dont want my money going there, and neither does my wife. I'd rather send that money to an American farmer, or the American company that makes his products into fuel.
rod
Retired 23 years
I see my brother-in-law who designs ethonol plants world wide has you brainwashed also
We can agree to disagree
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Yes, I just put all fuel reciepts into the "tax file" on my wifes desk, and then when we file we recieve a direct credit up to $200 per year per vehicle...which totals $400 for us. This almost offsets the increased cost of the fuel, and helps to support an Oregon-based family-wage paying business.
stevetheupsguy
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I found sober's post quite interesting. If that is all true, it's quite good all around. I would rather spend my money locally, than have it sent overseas. Now, if I could only teach more people to ride their bicycles, that, would be an accomplishment.
Gas is now $1.79gal - $1.85gal here in Sunny south Florida.
Gas is now $1.79gal - $1.85gal here in Sunny south Florida.
stevetheupsguy
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Hey rod, you know they make 3 wheeled bike for old guys like yourself, right?
rod
Retired 23 years
Hey rod, you know they make 3 wheeled bike for old guys like yourself, right?
I wonder how that would work in 2 feet of snow? P.S. Your only 16 years younger than me- how's that for ruining your day?
stevetheupsguy
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rod
Retired 23 years
It does have potential!!! Looks like that basket would hold a case of beerMaybe this one will work better for you, Mr.
stevetheupsguy
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rod
Retired 23 years
And maybe we could get a couple of St Bernards to drag you around town.
Good idea--- Whisky don't affect me. Isn't that what they carry in that little keg? (maybe it's brandy)
