22.4 Double Shifting

[GodlikeRage]

Just want to know my rights as a 22.4 combination driver and that I'm understanding the current UPS National Master Contract Article 22 Section 4b and all that apply for potential grievances. I am located in the southern supplemental region. We've been told volume has been down in our hub and all 22.4s have been told to report to preload and local sort "to get our 8 hours". I have no problem working the warehouse, I'll retain my drivers pay rate for everything I do, but I want my 8 hours on one sort, one shift.

I live 45 minutes away from the hub and to drive there at 3 am and leave at 9 to come back again at 4 pm and leave again at 9 just to come back again early in the morning is ridiculous. I've never even done preload, came from local sort so I am definitely not used to waking up that early. The company shall be entitled to establish up to a one-and-one-half hour (1.5) gap between jobs in a workday. Preload ends at 9 am and local sort starts at 4, that is 7 hours in between shifts. The contract also states we are guaranteed 8 straight consecutive hours, any "Lay off" language pretty much will never apply to us as we are a combination position and until every single part timer in that building is laid off first or work in the warehouse slows down to a point where there's not even enough work for RPCD's and some of those guys start taking the work. This language supersedes any supplement, Rider, or Addendum on the same subject.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Buy yourself an alarm clock and a book to read between shifts.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just want to know my rights as a 22.4 combination driver and that I'm understanding the current UPS National Master Contract Article 22 Section 4b and all that apply for potential grievances. I am located in the southern supplemental region. We've been told volume has been down in our hub and all 22.4s have been told to report to preload and local sort "to get our 8 hours". I have no problem working the warehouse, I'll retain my drivers pay rate for everything I do, but I want my 8 hours on one sort, one shift.

I live 45 minutes away from the hub and to drive there at 3 am and leave at 9 to come back again at 4 pm and leave again at 9 just to come back again early in the morning is ridiculous. I've never even done preload, came from local sort so I am definitely not used to waking up that early. The company shall be entitled to establish up to a one-and-one-half hour (1.5) gap between jobs in a workday. Preload ends at 9 am and local sort starts at 4, that is 7 hours in between shifts. The contract also states we are guaranteed 8 straight consecutive hours, any "Lay off" language pretty much will never apply to us as we are a combination position and until every single part timer in that building is laid off first or work in the warehouse slows down to a point where there's not even enough work for RPCD's and some of those guys start taking the work. This language supersedes any supplement, Rider, or Addendum on the same subject.

Shove that 22.4 language back on there face

 

[Pullman Brown]

Buy yourself an alarm clock and a book to read between shifts.

You wouldn’t have that attitude if someone treated you that way with your own personal contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Shove that 22.4 language back on there face

Can he collect unemployment if he refuses work?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You wouldn’t have that attitude if someone treated you that way with your own personal contract.

If it meant putting food on my table......yes.

They are going to pay him 22.4 rate to unload trailers (AM) and package cars (PM). Sure beats the heck out of collecting unemployment.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Can he collect unemployment if he refuses work?

Not sure if I can or cannot but they will lose their health care and pension credits

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Not sure if I can or cannot but they will lose their health care and pension credits

Not if he sucks it up and works on the inside.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Not if he sucks it up and works on the inside.

That work may not be available

All of our regular attempts early off as of Monday

So this will get very interesting

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That work may not be available

All of our regular attempts early off as of Monday

So this will get very interesting

The OP stated that the 22.4's in his center have been told to report to the preload/metro to get their hours.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The OP stated that the 22.4's in his center have been told to report to the preload/metro to get their hours.

I understand that but they'll be definitely more than an hour and a half break in between their next shift
The company has zero problems using is underpaid package car drivers now they want to screw them out of the guarantee to 8 hours?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I understand that but they'll be definitely more than an hour and a half break in between their next shift
The company has zero problems using is underpaid package car drivers now they want to screw them out of the guarantee to 8 hours?

He will be getting his 8.....just not in a row.

 

[PT Car Washer]

If it meant putting food on my table......yes.

They are going to pay him 22.4 rate to unload trailers (AM) and package cars (PM). Sure beats the heck out of collecting unemployment.

Depending on his buildings PT MRA it could be cheaper to use 22.4's then to higher another Preloader.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

He will be getting his 8.....just not in a row.

They're only supposed to have 90 minute break on a split shift

 

[Jkloc420]

They're only supposed to have 90 minute break on a split shift

That is if he wants the 8 hours, he only has to work one shift

 

[GodlikeRage]

Can he collect unemployment if he refuses work?

I’m not refusing to work but the contract clearly states I’m guaranteed 8 consecutive hours, if they don’t find me work that is a grievance to pay me out the rest of the time. There’s nothing in my supplemental or national contract that says I have to split shifts. That’s not ideal at all, no other classification does that afaik and I still drive on Saturday? Lol. I will show up to twilight shift on Tuesday at 2pm and expect to clock out at 10 pm.

 

[GodlikeRage]

That is if he wants the 8 hours, he only has to work one shift

One shift, 8 consecutive hours.

 

[GodlikeRage]

He will be getting his 8.....just not in a row.

I’m not getting my 8 like that.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That is if he wants the 8 hours, he only has to work one shift

They are guaranteed 8

 

[GodlikeRage]

Depending on his buildings PT MRA it could be cheaper to use 22.4's then to higher another Preloader.

Me and about 10 other 22.4’s are currently red circled at least $32 an hour. They said they would cut two preloaders for every 22.4 that reports to work.