if the apwa is so great why dont the ups employees have them? i went to the hrs meeting and heard alot of nonsense. Who else in this country can produce that kind of benifits and retirement, these guys are trying to sell. With uncle sams big pocket state and fed employees would do better. please check out the apwa and you will find they have been listed as a non profit in the state of delaware. if you joined this union how many members do they have. have you been sent information thru this union on benifits, pension, membership etc.