Going from 22.4 to RPCD

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...S_National_Agreement_2018-2023.pdf?1557352861

Scroll down to page 83-86. This is the contract language for the newly created 22.4 position, which includes the possibility of inside work.

 

[542thruNthru]

Nope. 22.4's work part of their day on the inside and the other part on road. They are NOT FT drivers.

Guaranteed 8 hours but not guaranteed how the 8 will be split up between inside and on road.

22.4's started after I retired; however, I do know that these "hybrid" drivers were created to perform their primary job on the inside and to work on road as needed, hence the much lower starting pay rate.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...S_National_Agreement_2018-2023.pdf?1557352861

Scroll down to page 83-86. This is the contract language for the newly created 22.4 position, which includes the possibility of inside work.

Wow now it's the possibility of inside work! Lol

Nice job.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Wow now it's the possibility of inside work! Lol

Nice job.

And I could possibly hit the Powerball too!

 

[542thruNthru]

And I could possibly hit the Powerball too!

He could possibly get laid.... no wait let me try again.

He could possibly leave this site... wait no not that one either...

I give up

 

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Nope. 22.4's work part of their day on the inside and the other part on road. They are NOT FT drivers.

In theory, but for all intents and purposes...they are.

 

[MECH-lift]

He could possibly get laid.... no wait let me try again.

He could possibly leave this site... wait no not that one either...

I give up

 

[Mugarolla]

Wow now it's the possibility of inside work! Lol

I'll give @UpstateNYUPSer a little credit on this one.

This was how 22.4 drivers were originally pitched to the Company and to us.

They would work their inside portion of their job, preloading, sorting, unloading, etc and then help out RPCD's during the week, Tue-Sat or Wed-Sun, while also driving on the weekends to keep the Company from forcing RPCD's to work the weekends.

By the time the language hit the contract, and how the Company saw that they could exploit these drivers, most 22.4's will probably be driving FT in centers that utilize them.

This was not the original intent of this classification.

 

[sandwich]

Nope. 22.4's work part of their day on the inside and the other part on road. They are NOT FT drivers.

Absolutely wrong. You will speak when spoken to.

 

[WTFm8]

Nope. 22.4's work part of their day on the inside and the other part on road. They are NOT FT drivers.

WRONG. Many do driving only, at least for the last few months.

Just as warned, they’re discount drivers.

 

[542thruNthru]

I'll give @UpstateNYUPSer a little credit on this one.

This was how 22.4 drivers were originally pitched to the Company and to us.

They would work their inside portion of their job, preloading, sorting, unloading, etc and then help out RPCD's during the week, Tue-Sat or Wed-Sun, while also driving on the weekends to keep the Company from forcing RPCD's to work the weekends.

By the time the language hit the contract, and how the Company saw that they could exploit these drivers, most 22.4's will probably be driving FT in centers that utilize them.

This was not the original intent of this classification.

A lot of things are sold to us different during negotiations. Once it hits paper most don't bother to see if what they said was 100% accurate.

 

[PorkyBrown]

I've been driving full time since summer never touched inside work since I became 22.4. If they wanna pay my 20.50 to do inside work I'd be happy.

 

[Mugarolla]

A lot of things are sold to us different during negotiations. Once it hits paper most don't bother to see if what they said was 100% accurate.

You are correct.

I will never forget...

hall..."Teamcare mirrors your existing plan."

Although, I did try and point out the lies before the vote.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So they basically established a lower paid tier of drivers....hmm...didn't see that one coming.

 

[542thruNthru]

So they basically established a lower paid tier of drivers....hmm...didn't see that one coming.

You should have. It happen in 97 here.

 

[Mugarolla]

You should have. It happen in 97 here.

I believe he was being sarcastic.

He has always maintained that UPS would eventually go to a 2 tier pay scale, with new drivers being paid less.

 

[542thruNthru]

I believe he was being sarcastic.

He has always maintained that UPS would eventually go to a 2 tier pay scale, with new drivers being paid less.

I know he was. I was also.

 

[Mugarolla]

I know he was. I was also.

And so was I.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

what’s a 22.4? we don’t have those here

They, in conjunction with people that were too lazy to vote, are the result of a bunch of uninformed voters (that only need to see raises in a contract proposal to vote for it) voting yes on our current contract.

 

[burrheadd]

...during Peak.....

So, you think they are going to pay a 22.4 $30 an hour to be a hub monkey

Not gonna happen unless they can’t staff with part timers

do you just make stuff up as you go along

 

[Whither]

I'll give @UpstateNYUPSer a little credit on this one.

This was how 22.4 drivers were originally pitched to the Company and to us.

I hope the hall didn't mention to Upstate that 22.4s were only going to take a 20ish percent pay cut. He would've been steaming. "40 percent or I vote no!"