Hazard pay petition

[Brownsocks]

It’s adorable you think nurses don’t have a physical job. You would be replaced in a day if you quit.

Im still more of a benefit to my company than you are to yours.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

And you're proud of the fact FedEx is raking in the profit while the people doing the actual work are barely scrapping by?

According to him they're all rich. Lol.

 

[burrheadd]

UPS is vastly overpaid. They should make more in line with a ground driver.

why should this be any concern of your’s

 

[It will be fine]

Im still more of a benefit to my company than you are to yours.

That’s objectively not true. I sign the front of the paychecks.

 

[Operational needs]

exactly. The market might have been different 10-15, even 2 years ago, however, Amazon and Ground are dictating that it isn't quite as lucrative as people want to believe. It's unskilled labor. People should feel more grateful rather than feeling entitled to similar pay as nurses, teachers, etc.

And yet FedEx has a hard time getting people much less keeping them. Express drivers may not be skilled but with the demands of the job, we deserve every penny we get. When you’ve missed many of your kids games, programs, Christmas seasons, etc., you’ll start feeling differently. Do we deserve to make as much as UPS, IMO, no, but we sure don’t deserve less than we make because we’re “unskilled”.

 

[Cactus]

UPS comes out and says massive layoffs are on the way and you guys are asking for a raise...

Yeah, well I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Brownsocks]

That’s objectively not true. I sign the front of the paychecks.

Proved my point for me.

 

[59 Dano]

In a world where more and more people rely on deliveries, whether that be to the business or the home, we should be asking for wages to increase, not decrease to ground levels, like you suggest.

The pay is market based, so why are Express, Purolator and UPS making much more than ground? It would seem the market isn't ground level pay.

Is Ground adequately staffed? If so, then the market is functioning just fine.

 

[dezguy]

Is Ground adequately staffed? If so, then the market is functioning just fine.

Didn't seem to be adequately staffed this past peak....

 

[59 Dano]

Didn't seem to be adequately staffed this past peak....

That was an issue of poor planning by Ground, not poor pay by contractors.

I don't know what's so hard to understand. Would you stick with a bad job if you had better alternatives? No. What makes you think that Ground guys would?

 

[MrFedEx]

Is Ground adequately staffed? If so, then the market is functioning just fine.

Ah, the magic free market.

 

[dezguy]

That was an issue of poor planning by Ground, not poor pay by contractors.

I don't know what's so hard to understand. Would you stick with a bad job if you had better alternatives? No. What makes you think that Ground guys would?

Maybe they don't have the motivation to move? I don't know their reasons. I do know I know plenty of people who are just comfortable at a bad job or don't want the hassle of moving jobs.

Personally, I'm always on the look out for something better but for some I guess it's not as important as being comfortable with ones surroundings.

 

[59 Dano]

Maybe they don't have the motivation to move? I don't know their reasons. I do know I know plenty of people who are just comfortable at a bad job or don't want the hassle of moving jobs.

And it all comes around to them being content with the pay they're getting for the work they're doing.

 

[59 Dano]

Ah, the magic free market.

There is no better way to determine a wage.

 

[Cactus]

And it all comes around to them being content with the pay they're getting for the work they're doing.

Well, would you be content with Ground wages and zero benefits?

I think not.

 

[MrFedEx]

There is no better way to determine a wage.

Not necessarily. Don't you think the "New Normal" dictates a higher wage in line with higher risk?

 

[59 Dano]

Well, would you be content with Ground wages and zero benefits?

I think not.

No. Hence, I don't work there. Yet other people ARE content with Ground wages and zero benefits, hence, they work there.

AMAZING.

 

[Cactus]

No. Hence, I don't work there. Yet other people ARE content with Ground wages and zero benefits, hence, they work there.

AMAZING.

And yet you advocate that their wages are fair. Ain't buying it.

If they're content with the crap wages Ground offers, then I'm afraid their aspirations are set way too low. Or they have a sugarmomma at home.

 

[59 Dano]

And yet you advocate that their wages are fair.

I say their wages are fair because they keep showing up to collect them instead of doing something else for a living that pays better.

 

[Cactus]

I say their wages are fair because they keep showing up to collect them instead of doing something else for a living that pays better.

I'll bet you've never even ASKED one solitary Ground driver if they thought if they were getting a fair (livable) wage.

You're claiming it's a fair wage because you said so?

Let's see...
1. Up to 12 hours a day.
2. Zero overtime.
3. No health insurance or if offered premiums are thru the roof.
4. One week's PAID vacation at best and in a lot cases non-existent.
5. Heavy lifting and maneuvering without assistance with stuff that should go to Freight.
6. No A/C all summer long.
7. Working on Sundays

Maybe you ought to try doing this for a month (doubtful you could handle it) then get back to us.