Hub Expansions & new Hubs.....

scratch

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I think SMAGA is supposed to be the pnuemonic for new SMART Hub (Southeast Metro Area Routing Terminal) a.k.a. new Atlanta Hub. Also called Sandy Creek Hub. From what I understand none of the existing Atlanta area buildings will be closed.

Sandy Creek Rd is a side street at 1100 Fulton Industrial Blvd where the new Atlanta Hub is located. And it is a fully automated sorting Hub, so that makes sense.
 

browned_out

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Well I know California is going full throttle on new construction/hub upgrades, we have two new buildings in our Los Angeles area Bell and Compton. They just finished automating Oakland, San Bruno is being worked on now. Cerritos is shutting down there night sort and starting the process to automate. Recently Lathorp was completed, huge new facility in northern California. As a side note lots of new tractors everywhere, all automatics. Kenworth, Freightliners and Internationals.
 

rod

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Nah 30. Its in West dallas close to Loop 12. Place is a real pain in the dick to get to during rush hour, yet they make us take our cpu loads there...


I was going to say I-35 has been under construction (still is) for 2 or 3 years now so I was thinking if it was anywhere near that it had to be a cluster .... to get to.
 

robot

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I was going to say I-35 has been under construction (still is) for 2 or 3 years now so I was thinking if it was anywhere near that it had to be a cluster .... to get to.


Actually it is close to 35. Maybe 3-5 miles west of downtown dallas. I forgot since I avoid 35 like the plague
 

polyp

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have you ever seen an automated unload and smalls?

The big impact automating our smalls had was simply that we could run more volume through the smalls system. Significantly reduced the amount of peices that should have been inside a nylon but weren't because the infrastructure just wasn't there. Didn't seem to make much of a dent in terms of number of people on payroll, just a few more people cut out each day. The main change was being able to absorb that flow.

Maybe the reductions will come when they get the system to stop building bad bags? It's been a few years though. I'm not optomistic, the whole thing still breaks down every couple of months.

I'm actually kind of looking forward to the automated unload/sort when they finish automating the hub. They've had major problems staffing the associated skilled positions here for ages. No one wants to do it because the building is woefully over capicity.

If I were to guess, projections for the reduction in staffing are going to be frustrated by how overwhelmed some of these older buildings are right now.
 

dudebro

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I'm not sure where the other poster got his info but they aren't cutting 75% of inside jobs.

My building had some cuts for the part-time employees at first but after a few months the new employee tours we're back in full swing.

We don't really have to cut anybody. We "attrit". If a hub stopped hiring for a year it would be down 75% easily.
 
Well I know California is going full throttle on new construction/hub upgrades, we have two new buildings in our Los Angeles area Bell and Compton. They just finished automating Oakland, San Bruno is being worked on now. Cerritos is shutting down there night sort and starting the process to automate. Recently Lathorp was completed, huge new facility in northern California. As a side note lots of new tractors everywhere, all automatics. Kenworth, Freightliners and Internationals.
La Mirada is a new bldg for 2019 that will relieve Cerritos. Lots in Northwest too ... Hillsboro, Alderwood, Lynwood, Tacoma, Tualatin.
 

Rick Ross

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The big impact automating our smalls had was simply that we could run more volume through the smalls system. Significantly reduced the amount of peices that should have been inside a nylon but weren't because the infrastructure just wasn't there. Didn't seem to make much of a dent in terms of number of people on payroll, just a few more people cut out each day. The main change was being able to absorb that flow.

Maybe the reductions will come when they get the system to stop building bad bags? It's been a few years though. I'm not optomistic, the whole thing still breaks down every couple of months.

I'm actually kind of looking forward to the automated unload/sort when they finish automating the hub. They've had major problems staffing the associated skilled positions here for ages. No one wants to do it because the building is woefully over capicity.

If I were to guess, projections for the reduction in staffing are going to be frustrated by how overwhelmed some of these older buildings are right now.

Did your smalls start taking bigger packages after it was automated?

When our hub finished automation, we were told smalls had to run over 50% of the volume to keep the building going. Sometimes smalls is lucky to get 3 packages in a bag because they are so large.
 

Rick Ross

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We don't really have to cut anybody. We "attrit". If a hub stopped hiring for a year it would be down 75% easily.

I think ours cut people for one reason...too many white shirts from Atlanta we're interested he building and they were trying to impress them.

It seemed pretty foolish to cut that many people the first day, everything was new and we'd had no training.
 

scratch

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Did your smalls start taking bigger packages after it was automated?

When our hub finished automation, we were told smalls had to run over 50% of the volume to keep the building going. Sometimes smalls is lucky to get 3 packages in a bag because they are so large.

The new system installed in Forest Park is two long conveyor belts that are made up of hundreds of high-speed small belts that spit the package out to the correct slide/bagging station. There are no tilt/trays like I saw in videos of earlier systems. You still have to have people to feed the main belt and change bags. This had a $7M cost to install, I heard this system was being tested with us before it went into the new Atlanta Hub. During our peak season disaster, the system didn't work right one morning and we were told we left a thousand small sort/SurePost bags in the building.
 

Catatonic

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Sandy Creek Rd is a side street at 1100 Fulton Industrial Blvd where the new Atlanta Hub is located. And it is a fully automated sorting Hub, so that makes sense.
Sandy Creek is the boundary of the southern edge of the property.
Sandy Creek flows into the Chattahoochee River, which forms the western boundary.
Address is 1100 Fulton Industrial Blvd.

Note: Google has not updated this area on their maps.
 
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