snookbunny420
Well-Known Member
scab
Is this allowed...???
- Thread starter ThatOnePreloader
- Start date
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
For insurance reasons you can drive and be insured by UPS unless you are 21
Brown truck or not.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Shouting it does not mean you are right.
Show me the policy that says you have to be 21 to shuttle a package to a driver in your personal vehicle.
Wait, don't waste your time.
There is none.
I agree. But as the OP stated, there were none present.
So now the choice became
1. Miss service
2. Use management to shuttle it.
3. Use a pre-loader to shuttle it.
Look, my first choice is to use a FT employee to do this, or at least a PT air driver. But if none are present, hell, UPS used a union member instead of management.
And now we want to tell them they screwed up?
That was the only choice in this situation.
OK. I agree with you that if this is "normal practice," that if this happens regulary, they need to staff their operation properly.
I believe that the OP said they normally have an air driver to do this but she was on vacation.
If it ever comes to a choice of management or a union member, I choose the union member everytime, pre-loader, unloader, sorter, does not matter.
W
What The Hawk?
Guest
Somebody is sensitive.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Fine, I'll just do it next time
W
What The Hawk?
Guest
Sorry, but it is not okay to take an underage preloader who would not be getting proper compensation to shuttle. If they wanted an underage person to do this, being 21 wouldn't be requirement.
I'd rather you do it and file on you than put an underage preloader at personal and financial risk.
This is a "normal" thing at OP's center. This is not ok.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
He can absolutely shuttle packages under 21. He just can't do it in a UPS vehicle.
I'm in a weak local RTW state and I have never seen or heard of this. If this was a workable thing it'd be going on everywhere.
W
What The Hawk?
Guest
I doubt that.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
I completely agree it shouldn't be a normal thing. But it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. We followed the contract and you guys complain. Not to mention everybody talks about how underpaid the PTers are, but you guys never seem to fight for them at contract time.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
They don't want us doing it, but it can absolutely be done. There is even a vehicle number you can put in timecards.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
You've never driven a day in your life but you're going to lecture me on DOT regs? Adorable.
W
What The Hawk?
Guest
Yes I am, just because you're doing it doesn't mean it's okay to do. It's not. Union needs to be notified about this.
W
What The Hawk?
Guest
OP, don't do it anymore.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
That's not why they have the 21 year old age restriction on drivers.
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
No we don't get paid for mileage. The task is treated as if it's just something small and extra we could do rather than another entire position
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Good God you’re dense. Right from Article 40 (you should know what that means being an expert)
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
You know a conversation is bizarre when I agree with you
