JUST A FUN FACT on this 4th of July !!!

[fishtm2001]

Does that even matter? The procedure is outlined by Article II.

placating slave states is very unamerican

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

placating slave states is very unamerican

Waaaaahh racism Waaaaahh
Get a grip buddy.

 

[fishtm2001]

Waaaaahh racism Waaaaahh
Get a grip buddy.

"....in the floor debate over the amendment in late 1803, Massachusetts Congressman Samuel Thatcher complained that “The representation of slaves adds thirteen members to this House in the present Congress, and eighteen Electors of President and Vice President at the next election.” But Thatcher’s complaint went unredressed. Once again, the North caved to the South by refusing to insist on direct national election."

Time

 

[Box Ox]

"....in the floor debate over the amendment in late 1803, Massachusetts Congressman Samuel Thatcher complained that “The representation of slaves adds thirteen members to this House in the present Congress, and eighteen Electors of President and Vice President at the next election.” But Thatcher’s complaint went unredressed. Once again, the North caved to the South by refusing to insist on direct national election."

Time

I'm sorry to hear that the Massachusetts Congressman didn't want slaves to be represented at all. Didn't know about that. Thanks for posting.

 

[fishtm2001]

I'm sorry to hear that the Massachusetts Congressman didn't want slaves to be represented at all. Didn't know about that. Thanks for posting.

The more slaves a cracker state bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. What a country!

 

[sailfish]

The more slaves a cracker state bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. What a country!

 

[PT 4 Life]

This is somehow supposed to justify American slavery??

 

[Fred's Myth]

This is somehow supposed to justify American slavery??

You should explore the difference between justification, and explanation, especially in context.

 

[PT 4 Life]

You should explore the difference between justification, and explanation, especially in context.

I just find it funny you guys have empathy in this situation, but not when it’s the other group. “Just get over it” that’s the narrative being pushed.

 

[sailfish]

I just find it funny you guys have empathy in this situation, but not when it’s the other group. “Just get over it” that’s the narrative being pushed.

Nobody here seems to have a chip on their shoulder thinking they're owed the world because of this 200 year old event. They seem to have "gotten over it".

 

[PT 4 Life]

Nobody here seems to have a chip on their shoulder thinking they're owed the world because of this 200 year old event. They seem to have "gotten over it".

They’re allowed to have resentment. This country denied them basic rights and enslaved them.

 

[sailfish]

They’re allowed to have resentment. This country denied them basic rights and enslaved them.

No it didn't.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

The more slaves a cracker state bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. What a country!

Waaaaahh racism Waaaaahh
Get a grip buddy.

 

[sailfish]

Find one person alive today who was legally held a slave in the United States and I'll admit I was wrong.

 

[PT 4 Life]

Find one person alive today who was legally held a slave in the United States and I'll admit I was wrong.

You’re missing the point. Of course no living slave is alive. What I’m talking about is the history of it. I don’t know what’s so hard about acknowledging it. Weird how makes you guys uncomfortable. Lol

 

[sailfish]

You’re missing the point. Of course no living slave is alive. What I’m talking about is the history of it. I don’t know what’s so hard about acknowledging it. Weird how makes you guys uncomfortable. Lol

Doesn't make me uncomfortable. I have no problem acknowledging that it happened, a long ing time ago. That anyone would think that people who weren't a victim of it are owed anything from people who had nothing to do with it is completely asinine.

 

[sailfish]

The country has evolved a lot since those days. Just goes to show that no matter how much "progress" is made, progressives will always hate America, even if they got everything they wanted.

 

[PT 4 Life]

I don’t hate America, I just recognize it’s faults. You can be critical of the place you live in.

 

[sailfish]

I don’t hate America, I just recognize it’s faults. You can be critical of the place you live in.

So what's your remedy for a 200 year old, presently non-existing fault in which all parties involved no longer exist?

 

[fishtm2001]

The country has evolved a lot since those days. Just goes to show that no matter how much "progress" is made, progressives will always hate America, even if they got everything they wanted.

It hasn't been Progressives who have advocating the trashing of the environment and discriminating against minorities nor lying us into war and authorization of the use of torture.