Middle class morons

[Lue C Fur]

I'll take that bet......I can see many voting third party, but voting for the "Union-Busting" Republican Party is like choosing to be extinghuished and eliminated.
"our union...local 2727...nothing to do with Canada or trucker/box kicker union...local 2727.
Why don't you quit your Union job today and stop freeloading on the entitlements Union Members fought for, and go work somewhere equal as a non-union employee......
Not a socialist feeloader like you...so i will stay. But since you "assume" which is not a good thing for you., i have organized many picketts and formed a union...what have you done?
I bet you stood up and cheered when Reagan fired the air Traffic Controllers.
I bet instead of a Farrah Faucet poster in your bedroom, you had a Poster of Union Buster Frank Lorenzo straddling an Eastern Airlines Jet.
Was not into posters, i was working back then and did not have personal time for Farrah that you did.
You ought to open up a Kool-Aid stand at your Hub.......
Wont have any takers for the Liberal Kool-aid because we all are against Odrama. Maybe we should start a club called "Teamsters against the Messiah". LMAO!!!!
lue..as usual no substance or content in your responses, it's mostly juvenile diatribe...

Deez...as usual you drink the Obama Kool-aid and want the govt to hold your hand...Cradle to grave.

Peace

 

[klein]

Diesel and Unionman.... don't know if you seen the documentary I.O.U.S.A.

Should give you plenty of firepower, even against God, Reagen himself :

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/iousa-one-nation-under-debt-in-stress/

 

[diesel96]

Because I don't work for the union and the union doesn't pay my wages or benefits. Look up the definition of a freeloader. Someone who provides a good or a service is not a freeloader. Many people do not agree with the "screw your neighbor mentality" of the union.

Your freeloading on the bargining agreements reach by the Union. Your enjoying good wages and benes fought and negotiated thru solidarity on behalf for you to have a decent income and security for for family, yet your graditutde is to dismiss the very entity that contributed for your well being today. We all have some critique of the Union as well and their History is controversial, yet most of us never forget that w/o their leverage, hourly employees security would be nowhere close to where we are today....Your going to sit here and tell us Union's "screw your nieghbor", while you throw your support towards those that would rather cut payroll, move operations to sweatshops overseas, buy back our own crap made with inferior quality for maximum profits. That's an elitist attitude, your not only screwing your co-hourly worker, but the frugality of skipping out on dues is transparent....

 

[diesel96]

Deez...as usual you drink the Obama Kool-aid and want the govt to hold your hand...Cradle to grave.

Peace

Keep waiting for the wealthy to -out (trickle-down) your piece of the American Dream...

 

[1989]

Your freeloading on the bargining agreements reach by the Union. Your enjoying good wages and benes fought and negotiated thru solidarity on behalf for you to have a decent income and security for for family, yet your graditutde is to dismiss the very entity that contributed for your well being today. We all have some critique of the Union as well and their History is controversial, yet most of us never forget that w/o their leverage, hourly employees security would be nowhere close to where we are today....Your going to sit here and tell us Union's "screw your nieghbor", while you throw your support towards those that would rather cut payroll, move operations to sweatshops overseas, buy back our own crap made with inferior quality for maximum profits. That's an elitist attitude, your not only screwing your co-hourly worker, but the frugality of skipping out on dues is transparent....

Don't get me wrong the union is great for people with a "I can't do it attitude" It also caps ones wages and benefits. Plus there is the pension scam. I just don't agree with the "i'm better than you attitude" based solely on you've been on the payroll longer than me. I pay union dues plus made a donation during the strike. I don't understand where freeloading comes from, it is just my opinion based on my experience.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Pension scam?

 

[diesel96]

Because I don't work for the union and the union doesn't pay my wages or benefits. Look up the definition of a freeloader. Someone who provides a good or a service is not a freeloader. Many people do not agree with the "screw your neighbor mentality" of the union.

Don't get me wrong the union is great for people with a "I can't do it attitude" It also caps ones wages and benefits. Plus there is the pension scam. I just don't agree with the "i'm better than you attitude" based solely on you've been on the payroll longer than me. I pay union dues plus made a donation during the strike. I don't understand where freeloading comes from, it is just my opinion based on my experience.

The way the post was worded, looked like you weren't part of the Union...My bad....but I don't agree with the union= "I can't do it attitude".. Many Union members I work with well motivated college educated and voluntarily switched occupations for sound economic and financial security.

 

[unionman]

Diesel and Unionman.... don't know if you seen the documentary I.O.U.S.A.

Should give you plenty of firepower, even against God, Reagen himself :

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/iousa-one-nation-under-debt-in-stress/

Very good documentary. The problem is huge but, it has been solved before by Clinton and we can only hope that Obama can tackle this problem head on when this economy is humming again.

 

[moreluck]

He's not even addressing jobs......the pres. is pre-occupied with programs (spend, spend, spend) to take care of everybody instead of helping people take care of themselves through honest work.

 

[unionman]

He's not even addressing jobs......the pres. is pre-occupied with programs (spend, spend, spend) to take care of everybody instead of helping people take care of themselves through honest work.

You already know that jobs come back last. The recovery is well on its way but companies are reluctant to hire because there employees are working harder so corporations can make more money but at some point they have to hire and that time is very soon.

 

[unionman]

Retiring Boomers Will Leave a Huge Hole in the Job Market

See full article from DailyFinance:
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http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/13/retiring-boomers-will-leave-a-huge-hole-in-the-job-market/

baby boomer retiring leave huge hole in job market

 

[klein]

Very good documentary. The problem is huge but, it has been solved before by Clinton and we can only hope that Obama can tackle this problem head on when this economy is humming again.

I personally think it's beyond fixing. Clinton had it easy. The new interesst on that massive debt, will take away any chance of ever running a surplus.
That film scares the crap out of me, to be honest.
I'll hang in the stockmarket for maybe another month or 2. But, then it all goes into a safe GIC. I can't take those chances, of a major depression.
I honestly think, this stimulus has just postponed the outcome.

Unionman, I wished I could think as positive as you do. But, not with those numbers.
I thought Greece may have it bad. But , they are atleast part of the EU and have back up.
Who can backup the US, after China runs out of money, or just decides enough is enough ?

Much too scary for me !

If I was you, I would start putting my savings into Canadian or Aussie Dollars, before those printing presses are in full speed.

 

[unionman]

I personally think it's beyond fixing. Clinton had it easy. The new interesst on that massive debt, will take away any chance of ever running a surplus.
That film scares the crap out of me, to be honest.
I'll hang in the stockmarket for maybe another month or 2. But, then it all goes into a safe GIC. I can't take those chances, of a major depression.
I honestly think, this stimulus has just postponed the outcome.

Unionman, I wished I could think as positive as you do. But, not with those numbers.
I thought Greece may have it bad. But , they are atleast part of the EU and have back up.
Who can backup the US, after China runs out of money, or just decides enough is enough ?

Much too scary for me !

If I was you, I would start putting my savings into Canadian Dollars, before those printing presses are in full speed.

The biggest problem we have is the cost of medicaid, medicare and social security. Obama is addressing medicare with healthcare reform and I believe that social security will have to be reduced and there will be a push for an alternative plan.

 

[klein]

The biggest problem we have is the cost of medicaid, medicare and social security. Obama is addressing medicare with healthcare reform and I believe that social security will have to be reduced and there will be a push for an alternative plan.

If you watched the CNN special (around that documentary), this weekend. The new healthcare reform was just a drop in the bucket. So, don't count on a reduction in those payments as it is set now. It will need to be overhauled again.

SS, forget collecting it, if you get a company pension, or under age 70 in the future.
Bush tax cuts have to go, and new taxes implemented. Probably a vat and higher income taxes.
Now, who will do that, and survive as president ?

 

[av8torntn]

The biggest problem we have is the cost of medicaid, medicare and social security. Obama is addressing medicare with healthcare reform and I believe that social security will have to be reduced and there will be a push for an alternative plan.

How do you figure that?

 

[1989]

Retiring Boomers Will Leave a Huge Hole in the Job Market

See full article from DailyFinance:
​

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/13/retiring-boomers-will-leave-a-huge-hole-in-the-job-market/

baby boomer retiring leave huge hole in job market

We are also in a business cycle, a time when businesses update equipment like computers. Noted in the Intel blow out conference call. At an estimated $4 billion will boost others earnings. And I am sorry, these factors arn't any of obama's doings.

 

[rod]

Retiring Boomers Will Leave a Huge Hole in the Job Market

See full article from DailyFinance:​

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/13/retiring-boomers-will-leave-a-huge-hole-in-the-job-market/

baby boomer retiring leave huge hole in job market

I disagree--- a lot of the jobs held by babyboomers have disappeared overseas or have been taken over by automation. I'm talking real jobs - not part time flippin burgers at Micky D's type of jobs. Just wait until UPS finally teaches that monkey to drive

 

[brett636]

Every point you try to make, lacks the big picture.....Sorry, nothing to see hear folks, don't drink tainted kool-aid

http://globalwarmingmisinformation.com/research/201004130035

You wouldn't know the big picture if it bit you. The real scary thing about you and unionman is both of you have absolutely no concept of basic economics, and I really believe you both like it that way. You just take the Obama/DNC rhetoric as though it were gospel not having the slightest clue what its going to cost both of you down the road. Its truly very sad.

 

[unionman]

We are also in a business cycle, a time when businesses update equipment like computers. Noted in the Intel blow out conference call. At an estimated $4 billion will boost others earnings. And I am sorry, these factors arn't any of obama's doings.

"Even though unit volume is lower, that product mix is richer and that will drive future earnings," said Kevin Cassidy, an analyst at Thomas Weisel Partners. "Intel sold chips for higher-end notebooks and servers, which indicates that the recession is ending and people can afford more."

 

[Babagounj]

ok who bought these chips ?

maybe some of the new government offices created recently ? they have our money to spend ?